Isn't Captain Atom on Silver Surfer's level? He should be in the top 5.
Isn't Captain Atom on Silver Surfer's level? He should be in the top 5.
While I can't speak for the character post-Flashpoint, before that he was very often...just not depicted as that powerful. Based on that, I'd have put him in around 12 or so. His total power is basically up for grabs, but his strength typically isn't his foremost power.
I guess the list isn't terrible barring a few ommisisons and weird picks, but it's hard to see how they're measuring raw physical strength with magical characters.
There's a lot wrong with this list, but it's CBR. When are they right?
I think Superman is stronger than Damage. I know Diana shilled for him and said he punches harder than Clark, but I sincerely doubt it like I doubt when any "fresh new hotness" one-ups a member of the Big Seven because that's how comics work. You job for the new kid so they get credibility. Damage is never going to show up and be the barometer for strength after a year or two longer.
The Spectre, however, yeah. He can beat Clark easily. He's a manifestation of The Presence, so he's as infinitely powerful as he needs to be. There's an older story, I think from the Bronze Age, where Superman delivers his most powerful haymaker to The Spectre and it doesn't phase him at all. He just stands there, asks "are you satisfied" and they move on with the plot.
He has a tendency to job in events, as do all strong characters, but since The Presence is multiversal, I posit that The Spectre is too and we never really see more than a fragment of him manifest at once. Only way I can wrap my head around everyone having God's wrath's lunch money.
I mean not that anything like this matters, but Shazam and Aquaman should be higher on the list yo. Mera, too.
I forgot that Damage existed tbh.
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1. Does this / means you see them as equal in strength?
2. SUPER-HEROES, NOT VILLAINS... Ultraman,Major Force...are villains.
My question is:
Superboy=Conner/Jon
does this mean that you say both are equal??
does this / means that you consider them as equal?
Diana was shown as being CLEARLY superior to Artemis in strength...I am sure Donna and full powered Cassie are also stronger than her.
So I WOULDNT put Artemis in the 25 strongest Superheroes.
Vixen doesnt use her own strength, because she uses animals abilities...
dont know much about them, BUT Conner Kent (TT Version) HAS to be in this list, since his fights against Gog and especially Superboy Prime.
Actually I heard that in the DC Heroes Role-Playing Game he is considered to be Nr. 2 (ONLY INFERIOR TO SUPERMAN) and OTHERWISE he is equal to MARTIAN MANHUNTER...
I would say:
1. Spectre
2. Orion
3. Superman/Icon
4. Captain Atom
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Lobo/Shazam
7. Damage
8. Power Girl
9. Wonder Woman
10. Supergirl/Miss Martian
11. Superboy (Conner)
I left out Mary Marvel,OMAC....
Big Barda and Donna I am not sure, but in terms of strength I say that she is inferior to TT Superboy and Supergirl.
Only strength as in lifting weights NOT battle....
Big Barda I dont know, but in Comics she is superior to her Anime Versions and is said that she is equal to Diana.
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Just to point out that in the only comment either character has made on the subject, Gail Simone in her run had Wonder Woman think that Power Girl is "at least as strong as I am". This as a mind controlled PG attacks her and tosses her around for a bit. Which suggests that in Diana's mind at least, Karen is certainly AS strong as she herself is...and possibly more. BTW, isn't Superwoman a villain?
Yes, but I have never seen Power Girl as being as strong as Wonder Woman.
Yes, Superwoman is a super-villainess, but as I previously posted, I did include some villains just to help stat out where everyone fits. Again, this is only my listing, with the accuracy I know from what I read.
Power Girl is not stronger than Diana or OG Kara at full strength. Her beating darkseid is a outlier.