King in Black (2020)

[your_name_here]

Announced today! Coming this December!
Knull is finally here!
Very, very excited for this one.

[scourge]

Can we please at least start Empyre before they announce another event?

Also, hard pass.

This event just looks like more of the terrible Knull and Carnage nonsense that Cates has been doing for too long.

[Immortal Hulk]

Donny Cates doing the same old same old...

[Riv86672]

Pass. Not a symbiote fan. Those things are overdone af.

[your_name_here]

Can we please at least start Empyre before they announce another event?

Also, hard pass.

This event just looks like more of the terrible Knull and Carnage nonsense that Cates has been doing for too long.

What’s been terrible about it?

[scourge]

What’s been terrible about it?

First there's Knull. The fact that his name is apparently profanity in another language aside...he's about as embarrassingly bad an edgelord oc as the Batman Who Laughs.
All the retcons to the Symbiotes have taken them from being a perfectly good species of aliens to a bunch of OP messes. Especially Carnage who seemed to get new powers in every single one of his little mini-series.
And this desperate 'we have to separate Venom from Spider-Man!' has done the character no real favors.

[Ying Ko]

Will this Knull story never end?

[your_name_here]

Will this Knull story never end?

He was introduced as imprisoned in 2018, released in 2019 and will face the MU this year. He’s really not been around that long.

[your_name_here]

First there's Knull. The fact that his name is apparently profanity in another language aside...he's about as embarrassingly bad an edgelord oc as the Batman Who Laughs.
All the retcons to the Symbiotes have taken them from being a perfectly good species of aliens to a bunch of OP messes. Especially Carnage who seemed to get new powers in every single one of his little mini-series.
And this desperate 'we have to separate Venom from Spider-Man!' has done the character no real favors.

Well Venom is going to be a main character in a seemingly MU-Wide December event and is featuring more and more prominently in the MU. I’d say distancing the character from Spider-Man is going pretty well.

[scourge]

Well Venom is going to be a main character in a seemingly MU-Wide December event and is featuring more and more prominently in the MU. I’d say distancing the character from Spider-Man is going pretty well.

A character being forced and featured does not mean they're being done well.

[JTHM]

First there's Knull. The fact that his name is apparently profanity in another language aside...he's about as embarrassingly bad an edgelord oc as the Batman Who Laughs.
All the retcons to the Symbiotes have taken them from being a perfectly good species of aliens to a bunch of OP messes. Especially Carnage who seemed to get new powers in every single one of his little mini-series.
And this desperate 'we have to separate Venom from Spider-Man!' has done the character no real favors.

Symbiotes are still perfectly able to be a good species. In fact, they may have more merit for having turned out as good as they did considering their dark origin. They are good by choice, not by nature. Which resonates well with the current themes of the Venom run.

I know some people are super angry about it because they want Venom to remain simply a villain to Spider-Man. But that hasn't been the case for a long time. It's time to accept Venom is its own thing now, and act accordingly. Not so long ago he was selling more than Spider-Man himself.

[Jabare]

looks like the Bleeding Cool leak was dead on

[Drops Of Venus]

I guess I was wrong about Marvel not putting out a new main event so early. Like, they are really going for three big events back to back (Empyre, X Of Swords and King In Black). I'm usually not one to complain about event fatigue, but this seems a little too overkill even for me. Well, I still strongly believe in simply not reading what doesn't interest me and letting other people enjoy it if they like it, so... I guess it won't make that much of a difference for me either way.

[Agent Z]

[Jabare]

I'm buying this book because of Ryan Stegman's tweets. The art looks amazing