Pre-Crisis Darkseid vs Classic Odin

[Superfan90]

So this was your claim to begin with



Everything else aside, machine continues to keep said thousands of planets out of the multiverse and outside reality after Starfire's death

Funny thing is, you are just providing "circumstantial proof" like "here she's dead but the machine is powered up" or "Darkseid gets hurt by something else" to disprove the feat when it's a pretty straightforward feat. Anyway, I'm just going to agree to disagree with you.

[The Dork Knight]

The machine being a thing and Starfire not being....a thing , she being dead, is not "circumstantial proof"

Funny thing is, you are just providing "circumstantial proof" like "here she's dead but the machine is powered up" or "Darkseid gets hurt by something else" to disprove the feat when it's a pretty straightforward feat. Anyway, I'm just going to agree to disagree with you.

Unless Darkseid has suddenly come to recognize the supreme importance of Tamaranean royalty a lot more than he used to, there's also the part where he says "We generate it", an obvious reference to the relics but hey maybe you're right, maybe that's just Starfire alone.

How powerful does that make Blackstar btw considering she incinerated her?