Originally Posted by
Masterff
Its PURE LOGIC!!
Presence is the only true god, who is OMNIPOTENT
Michael,Lucifer and Elaine are 99% OMNIPOTENT (Michael and Lucifer need each other)
Spectre
Phantom Stranger
Its not like Greek "GODS" who arent Omnipotent, Presence is the real god, who is omnipotent and can delete,create etc. NO LIMITS
Michael and Lucifer have only the limit that they need each other to create
I dont know if Elaine has limits
Spectre is limitless, the only ones who are above him are PRESENCE,Michael-Lucifer and Elaine.
But in REALITY Michael,Lucifer,Elaine,Spectre etc. are able to defeat etc. the Lasso (if the Presence doesnt decide otherwise).
3. Darkseid is/should be stronger than GREEK GODS and rest of NEW GODS
4. Gods is also difficult, sinde Presence is the only real god and he and Spectre,Phantom Stranger,Lucifer-Michael...are and should be much stronger than "gods" like Darkseid, Zeus.....
NO!!!
Who says that its UNBREAKABLE? WHO says that its able to make anybody tell the TRUTH???
It ISNT!!!!
There is only one being in DC Universe who decides what is real and this is PRESENCE!!!!!!
Presence makes the rule for EVERYTHING!!!!!
Presence can create,delete,give powers to, change powers etc. He is LIMITLESS,OMNIPOTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucifer,Elaine,Michael,Presence,Spectre and even Phantom Stranger are MUCH ABOVE the power of the Lasso....
WW beating Phantom Stranger etc. not-since the Power of Presence,Spectre etc. just much over Greek Gods Power and over Darkseids etc.
The other stuff might be ok, even its like:
WW is stronger than male members of JL COMBINED,WW is smarter than male members of JL COMBINED..
But the scene with Phantom Stranger and Presence is OP!!!!
1. PRESENCE is OMNIPOTENT,OMNIPRESENT etc.
This means!!!!:
He just could have said: NO, I dont want that the Phantom Stranger says the truth!!!!!
And it wouldnt have worked!!!
2. Phantom Strangers existence was wished by the PRESENCE!!!
Presence Wish is UNBREAKABLE!! He can do what he wants!
Look at the time when Spectre destroyed Darkseid...Darkseid came to life again, because its Presence will that Darkseid exits and dont get killed by Spectre!!!
Yes Spectre is more powerful than Phantom Stranger, but it DOESNT MATTER, since we are talking here about the top top top players.
The only more powerful beings in WHOLE DC are:
-Presence
-Elaine
-Michael and Lucifer
So SPECTRE is (probably) the 5. most powerful being in the DC UNIVERSE
3. If you are connected to the Presence its more than enough to SURPASS the Greek Gods etc.
So it shouldnt have worked because of 2 things:
a) Phantom Stranger should be more powerful than even Greek Gods like Zeus etc.
b) Its Presence wish that Phantom Stranger exists etc. so she CLEARLY does something what the OMNIPOTENT GOD doesnt want