That is exactly it. Diana has a very robust powerset and it's almost never used to full effect.....hell it's barely used to half effect. I'd rather see writers delve into all of her abilities and talents, rather than focusing on one facet where she doesn't even have the agency to decide what her own limits are.
Speaking of her extended abilities/powers.....how has she been treated in JLDark? I hear good things and keep meaning to grab the trades but with so much uncertainty in the world right now it's pretty low on the priority list. Has Dark shown Diana using magic or anything like that? I'm assuming she's not in the "magic Justice League" book and doing nothing but punching things and swinging a sword?
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
From DC's official site:
"She carries the Lasso, also known as the Lasso of Truth (or the Lasso of Hestia). An unbreakable lariat which compels anyone who touches it to tell the truth, it can bind beings as strong as Superman."
and from DC Database:
"The lasso was forged by Hephaestus, the god of metalworking, from the Golden Girdle of Gaea (this girdle was once worn by Antiope, sister of the future Queen Hippolyta). The lasso is completely unbreakable, immutable, and indestructible."
And from DC-Marvel wiki:
"Lasso of Truth: Diana's most famous and iconic weapon, it is a magical lasso forged and blessed by the gods. to be completely indestructible even to entities as powerful as Superman."
Of course there are the rare exceptions in stories over the years, just like Superman is 'invulnerable' and yet has been bruised, cut and had bones broken by non-magical/non-Kryptonite methods.
So let's stop beating this particular dead horse.
Btw, Batman did a flying kick once and knocked Darkseid back and gave him a bloody nose. Does this mean that Darkseid can be beaten up by a mere mortal?
No, it means that sometimes writers and artists get it wrong.
As to immortality (never aging)? Well, she's certainly not a simple mortal. She's the daughter of immortal Hippolyta and immortal Zeus. She doesn't age in the movie, and, since post-Crisis, there's been no mention of Amazons aging because they leave Themyscira.
To clear it up, though, according to Wikipedia, DC declared her as being immortal in DC Nation Vol 2, #4. It also came up (if I remember correctly) in a discussion about Heroes in Crisis where it was revealed that Diana's hang-up is her concern over everyone dying as she continues to live out her immortal life.
Yes, and I also believe that Diana has now been called a demi-goddess.
Good, that's what I'd want from her. I'd be down with Diana having certain myth based abilities, like being able to open a portal to Olympus or automatically detect lies or something (just random examples) but I don't really want her casting a bunch of spells like a classical wizard.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
You literally wrote "most basic power set (strength, speed, and durability)" in the post I replied to. That gives a rather clear hierarchy of Diana's powers, and one that I disagree with.
Strength and speed are basic physical traits that can be treated as super powers. So why can't personality traits or mental capabilities be super powers too?
«Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])
Context.
Shazam has the "wisdom of Solomon" and that counts as a power, as it's something Billy doesn't have otherwise. Mr. Terrific's intellect isn't a power, it's part of his baseline genetics, education, training, etc. A telepath's mental capabilities are obviously a super power, while Superman's leadership abilities (y'know, when DC writes him correctly) aren't due to yellow sun but his natural aptitudes, but his intellect *is* increased by sunlight, so part of his IQ counts as a super power while the rest of it is just Clark's baseline.
Diana's leadership abilities are, in my mind, a natural part of her ability and skillset and education. These natural skills might be enhanced by the gods' blessings but if you took those blessings away from her with a curse or some other de-powering gimmick, she's still going to be a skilled tactician, leader, and diplomat. She might lose a certain amount of insight if her blessings were taken but she's still naturally intelligent and trained to someday take a throne.
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"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Explain Batman then…
Personally, I think the above distinctions are differences that doesn't really matter to anything in practice.
Anything can be made into a superpower, if it is approached as one. It is certainly easier to visually imagine super-strength or flight. But the 2017 movie certainly managed to make love, compassion, and empathy into superpowers, as Gaelforce already pointed out.
«Speaking generally, it is because of the desire of the tragic poets for the marvellous that so varied and inconsistent an account of Medea has been given out» (Diodorus Siculus, The Library of History [4.56.1])
She is mortal....
I am NOT using the Movie Version of Thor!
I only tell you how it should have worked with the lasso..
In-Canon Feats are ridiculous and mean NOTHING!! BECAUSE and now READ!!
Phantom Stranger is the most powerful being in DC behind Elaine,Presence,Spectre,Michael and Lucifer..
Not even "Gods" like Zeus or Darkseid come close to him in terms of powers.
So if you compare Superman being captured by the Lasso with capturing Phantom Stranger you are comparing holding a pencil with holding the world.
You simply dont know who the Phantom Stranger is...
No, they didnt...If you have some, then list them.....
Its NOT unbreakable, its like Thors Hammer....Unbreakable until someone breaks it...
Darkseid uses AVATARS!! He DOESNT fight in his true form...
I dont know what do you want to say with these citations etc.
They mean nothing-thats ridiculous...
Phantom Stranger is OUTSIDE of any classification, not even Gods can compare to him....
Even Mjölnir was said that its indestrucatable and Mjölnir was destroyed.
Its unbreakable until someone breaks it and the Phantom Stranger is EASILY in the class to break it..
You compare AVATAR Darkseid with REAL Darkseid, it doesnt make any sense...
Immortality in DC only exist for 2 beings: Presence and Spectre.
Presence because its logical and Spectre, because he exists as long as there is a desire for Vengeance.
Zeus,Diana,Darkseid....are mortals..