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    You’d think an ex-CIA would do a little intel work, maybe reach out to Jae, before dumping on him on social media. Bad move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    YouÂ’d think an ex-CIA would do a little intel work, maybe reach out to Jae, before dumping on him on social media. Bad move.
    CIA dude going after someone on bad intel? Shocking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    You’d think an ex-CIA would do a little intel work, maybe reach out to Jae, before dumping on him on social media. Bad move.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    CIA dude going after someone on bad intel? Shocking!
    You two are overlooking the possibility that it was an intentional bit to clean up an artist's mildly tarnished rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dred View Post
    Life is politics. Comics have been political since the beginning. Not sure why you'd be surprised.
    By all means, if that's how you view life, more power to you. I certainly don't need something as absurd as a writer turning a variant cover into a political issue without even knowing the facts. Comics often having political subtext isn't the same as a creator trying to cancel another creator for wrongthink, which turned out to not even be wrongthink when Lee had no clue what comicsgate even was.
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    I like his books, but what he did there was shameful. Pure virtue-signaling. He almost destroyed the career of a great artist for nothing, just to prove that he is one of the good guys. These writers need to spend less time on twitter.
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    I don't think what King did was that bad, he clearly wanted to disavow himself from a known hate group that targets minority's and mocks diversity. It's best to call out bigotry.

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    Who likes Alan Moores writing and thinks oh yeah just write more of his stuff because thats what he was all about.

    I wish DC would move on from Alan Moore. It feels like every day someone sheds a tear in the office thats hes gone while a no-mark somewhere else in the office is thinking..hmm. yeah the horse is dead but what if.... it were a zombie horse.

    I cannot believe ex cia is following up a story by a man who wrote an expose of Cia history. You couldnt make it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. D. Guy View Post
    I can kinda understand Korath's frustrations, though. Any goodwill gained from The Vision, Omega Men, and/or Grayson (and how much of Grayson's positive influences were King's or Tynion's has been questioned before) has likely been thoroughly squandered and lost with Batman and Heroes in Crisis.
    Batman was the big failure to me. Heroes in Crisis always felt like a mistake no matter what he was gonna do but Batman could've worked alot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPiece View Post
    I don't think what King did was that bad, he clearly wanted to disavow himself from a known hate group that targets minority's and mocks diversity. It's best to call out bigotry.
    He can call out bigotry all he wants, the question is why did he throw Lee under the bus without even bothering to do the smallest bit of research first. Not only he made an ass of himself, but almost got an innocent man canceled for literally no reason at all. How long are people like this going to keep doing nonsense like that without being held accountable for it. You can't falsely accuse someone of spreading hate and get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    He can call out bigotry all he wants, the question is why did he throw Lee under the bus without even bothering to do the smallest bit of research first. Not only he made an ass of himself, but almost got an innocent man canceled for literally no reason at all. How long are people like this going to keep doing nonsense like that without being held accountable for it. You can't falsely accuse someone of spreading hate and get away with it.
    Couldn't have said it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    He can call out bigotry all he wants, the question is why did he throw Lee under the bus without even bothering to do the smallest bit of research first. Not only he made an ass of himself, but almost got an innocent man canceled for literally no reason at all. How long are people like this going to keep doing nonsense like that without being held accountable for it. You can't falsely accuse someone of spreading hate and get away with it.
    Exactatiously!

    He's a grown-ass man acting like some Fauke teenager trying to earn his Moral/Integrity badge but going about it the wrong way. That **** don't fly with me, at all.
    I'm holding him accountable...he's "cancelled" in my books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    He can call out bigotry all he wants, the question is why did he throw Lee under the bus without even bothering to do the smallest bit of research first. Not only he made an ass of himself, but almost got an innocent man canceled for literally no reason at all. How long are people like this going to keep doing nonsense like that without being held accountable for it. You can't falsely accuse someone of spreading hate and get away with it.
    All King said was 'Jae Lee, who has also done covers for comicsgate, a hate group." That's not accusing him of spreading hate, just saying he worked with a hate group. I'm glad it seems he somehow didn't know, but it's still good on King to call out that he isn't fine with working with someone from the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPiece View Post
    All King said was 'Jae Lee, who has also done covers for comicsgate, a hate group." That's not accusing him of spreading hate, just saying he worked with a hate group. I'm glad it seems he somehow didn't know, but it's still good on King to call out that he isn't fine with working with someone from the group.
    Just because Lee did covers does not mean he's part of the group. King made an attempt to cancel him for *then* fact checked after Bleeding Cool corrected him. King made a judgement call and it was the wrong one by 'shooting first and asking questions later' so to speak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denirac View Post
    Just because Lee did covers does not mean he's part of the group. King made an attempt to cancel him for *then* fact checked after Bleeding Cool corrected him. King made a judgement call and it was the wrong one by 'shooting first and asking questions later' so to speak
    No one accussed Lee of being part of the group, it's just him being guilty by association. It's great Lee actually did not know what comicsgate actually was and isn't doing future work with them, but in such a tough politcal climate it's good to call out this type of thing. And honestly, maybe this made other writers and artists who aware of what comics gate is if they didn't know yet and now they will also steer clear. And that is a good thing.

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    Being mad at "cancel culture" and then going around cancelling someone for it is a bit ironic, eh?

    That being said, what King did wasn't nice and he should have talked to Lee first before making assumption and sharing it with the public.

    Also, I seriously wish for Twitter to be closed down already. That platform created far more drama than its worth.
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