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    Default Do Martin Scorsese's mafia movies...

    overshadow his other work? Everyone wants to talk about Goodfellas, Casino, Mean Streets, The Irishman, and The Departed, all fine films, but what gets overlooked are movies like Bringing Out the Dead, Kundun, New York New York, Passion of the Christ and others. It seems like people expect him to direct a mob movie at every turn and to star De Niro and Pesci and that's kind of a shame. He's much more than his mafia movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    overshadow his other work? Everyone wants to talk about Goodfellas, Casino, Mean Streets, The Irishman, and The Departed, all fine films, but what gets overlooked are movies like Bringing Out the Dead, Kundun, New York New York, Passion of the Christ and others. It seems like people expect him to direct a mob movie at every turn and to star De Niro and Pesci and that's kind of a shame. He's much more than his mafia movies.
    I believe it was his choice to do the Irishman on Netflix.
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    I thought Hugo and After Hours were very good. But his mob movies are masterpieces, if you include Ragin Bull, those are his best
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    overshadow his other work? Everyone wants to talk about Goodfellas, Casino, Mean Streets, The Irishman, and The Departed, all fine films, but what gets overlooked are movies like Bringing Out the Dead, Kundun, New York New York, Passion of the Christ and others. It seems like people expect him to direct a mob movie at every turn and to star De Niro and Pesci and that's kind of a shame. He's much more than his mafia movies.
    Do you mean The Last Temptation of Christ? Cause Mel Gibson did Passion. I couldn't find any cross reference of Passion and Scorsese other than "According to the DVD special feature, Martin Scorsese recently finished his film Gangs of New York, and Gibson and his production designers constructed part of their set using Scorsese's set. This saved Gibson a lot of time and money."

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    Two of Scorsese's biggest movies -- Taxi Driver and The Wolf of Wall Street -- aren't mafia movies at all. I mean you can argue that Wolf of Wall Street is like a mafia movie but it's not really the mob.

    And The Departed isn't really a mafia movie. It's about the police corruption in Boston, and the irish mob not the Italian mafia.

    Likewise, The Last Temptation of Christ was the most controversial movie made by Hollywood and it was making that movie that made Scorsese a household name.

    I think Scorsese is quite famous and well known for a lot of things, it's just that the genre of the mob and the mafia is done by him in a way nobody else does it, so that's why he's famous for it. I think it's a little sad he isn't known for movies like The Age of Innocence, and it's a shame and disgrace that a movie like Joker 2019 made far more money than The King of Comedy, and that many people who see Joker will never see the King of Comedy which is a far superior film in every conceivable way.

    Also love his documentaries.

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    Many people would say Raging Bull is the best film of the 1980’s and it was probably the film he was known for before Goodfellas. I’d argue Wolf of Wallstreet is up there with any of them. Everyone knows Taxi Driver.

    If anything Casino and a Mean Streets get under represented so I wouldn’t say they overshadow anything.

    I would say Goodfellas is probably his best film and rightly gets praised to the heavens. Departed won him his Oscar so that’s going to mean something. And Irishman was in many ways a swan song for Deniro, Pacino, and Pesci’s era of Mafia films so it was always going to have hype.

    But no I don’t think they outweigh the value if his other work. He just happened to have 3 amazing mafia films. The other movies get their due.

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    Look at it this way, for any director, if they made just Goodfellas, that would be enough for them. They could carve a legacy based on that film.

    Scorsese though has a defining classic and masterpiece in every decade, many films that are as good as his famous ones under the surface, and a lot more besides.

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    Honorable mention for HBO's Boardwalk Empire? Scorsese directed the pilot. I think of Boardwalk Empire as underrated mix of crime and history.

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    He can direct any type of movie but Mafia movies are his comfort zone. Also since he has such a big mouth he should direct a comic book film not necessary a superhero film but a comic book film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    He can direct any type of movie but Mafia movies are his comfort zone. Also since he has such a big mouth he should direct a comic book film not necessary a superhero film but a comic book film.
    You know Scorsese has made many controversial films. His gangster films showing how the mafia worked were quite strong and subversive and controversial on release. His movie The Last Temptation of Christ put him on the s--tlist of Catholic and Protestant sects and made him an enemy of the religious right. His movie, Kundun, a biopic of the Dalai Lama, got him banned from China for showing Chairman Mao as a cold-hearted corrupt politician.

    So tell, what makes you think that a guy who has stepped on the toes of the Mob, the Church, and the Chinese Communist Party, is going to be afraid or intimidated by butthurt superhero movie fans?

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    Undoubtedly, his mafia/crime movies are what he's most know for, but as a couple posters have already stated Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are usually listed as among the best films of all time and they aren't mafia films.

    What's funny is that people forget he directed Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore which did decent when it was released and was spun off into a the very successful sit-com "Alice".

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    They probably do because they're so easy to watch over and over again. Especially Good Fellas and Casino.

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    Probably not. He's got quite a few notable films.

    He is the best crime film director ever, with the combination of Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, Gangs of New York, The Departed and The Irishman.

    However, his best regarded film is probably Raging Bull, and his most important film may be Taxi Driver. Wolf of Wall Street is also his biggest recent hit. The Last Temptation of Christ was his biggest controversy, and Joker has brought renewed attention to King of New York.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Probably not. He's got quite a few notable films.

    He is the best crime film director ever, with the combination of Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, Gangs of New York, The Departed and The Irishman.

    However, his best regarded film is probably Raging Bull, and his most important film may be Taxi Driver. Wolf of Wall Street is also his biggest recent hit. The Last Temptation of Christ was his biggest controversy, and Joker has brought renewed attention to King of New York.
    Think you mean King of Comedy. King of New York was pretty good tho-Christopher Walken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Think you mean King of Comedy. King of New York was pretty good tho-Christopher Walken.
    Directed by Abel Ferrara, who used to be called the "poor man's Martin Scorsese" though he's pretty great in his own right.

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