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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    Moro a legit Jiren / Beerus (anime versions) level of power? I'm not sure how the Manga stacks up.
    Not even close. For starters it has a lot less instances of characters becoming stronger, but most importantly the manga lacks any universal feat aside from the weird one-off nonsensical shockwaves (and Zen'o).

    Zamasu becoming the universe, Beerus and Champa threatening to destroy it, Goku and Beerus threatening to blow it up with a regular clash of energy blasts, Vegeta's base form ignoring SSJ3 Gotenks, etc. None of those showings that made the universal status of (again, non-Zen'o) DBS characters consistent are in the manga, so the shockwaves are left as a massive outlier that can be dismissed.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Off the top of my head, Shen Long and Porunga couldn't teleport or resurrect Goku without his permission,
    That one is just an explicit limitation of the Dragon Balls where they can't affect anyone more powerful than their creator without their consent.
    Last edited by Siriel; 07-23-2020 at 07:29 AM.

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