More than Joker? Maybe not. But more than Robin and Catwoman? Maybe. Or, at the very least, enough to justify publishing it and making a profit? Uh, definitely. And unless you're actually arguing that Lex just wouldn't move any units whatsoever, then that's the point. DC leaves money on the table by choosing not to push these characters that they have in their roster.
Oh my god, how many times do I have to say that I'm
not bashing anything?? I'm just saying it would be nice if DC actually you know,
paid attention to their other characters.
Lol. That's your argument? That Batman didn't have Johns (even though Johns wrote the Earth One OGNs)? Meanwhile, literally all the writers you've mentioned have worked on Batman and on top of that, Batman had Moench, Dixon, Snyder, King, etc. And again, not at
all saying that Batman doesn't deserve top talent, but DC does tend to shovel top talent right to Batman even when it's a bad fit. King was actually a good example of that. Great writer, but his Batman was very hit or miss. But, the thinking process was "King is starting to become a big name. Let's stick him on Batman."
Tynion's Batman, though, is fire.
Dude, Hollywood's past aversion towards women and people of color, specifically women of color, is well-documented:
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And it's not just a lack of female protagonists. In 1995, women only had
33% of
speaking roles in film. And, honestly, the fact that they had decades to make a Wonder Woman film, yet didn't until 2017, while they'd made like 10 Batman films and 5 Superman films by that point is more than proof of the point.
Uh, because it was still a huge financial success and has been
the most critically acclaimed film of the DCEU. Not a Superman or Batman film, but a Wonder Woman film is the most critically beloved film of DC's recent offerings. You may not like that fact, but it's a fact. And I literally just mentioned Aquaman in my post, another non-Batman character. So...how does your bringing him up disprove my point?
You're really missing the point. No, it's not about getting Wonder Woman or any other character to "replace" or "dethrone" Batman. It's about the fact that
other characters can have great success if you let them instead of literally having everything be about Batman.
Yeah, except everything of what I said is true. Wonder Woman
is an iconic character who has maintained her own series for decades. Are you going to argue that she isn't?
Again, you're really missing the point.
Again, Marvel literally gives entire events to characters that sell at the same level as Wonder Woman. Captain America? Sells at the same level WW does. Thor? Same level. Even Venom sells at the same level as Wonder Woman. However, while Wonder Woman is rarely given a chance to shine in the larger DC lineup, Marvel will have Thor and Captain America headline their own events.
And again, the fact that there
were over 8 Batman titles is proof of my point.
Comichron literally puts Wonder Woman as consistently in the top 100 monthly sales just last year, right next to Catwoman, Guardians of the Galaxy, Detective Comics, and above Flash, Daredevil, and Captain America. So, yeah, your argument doesn't really hold because a) sales constantly fluctuate and b) a lot of very iconic characters have middling sales. Heck, Superman sells around the same amount as Diana. And that's the point. If Marvel ONLY went by the monthly sales, the only characters who'd get any attention would be Spider-Man and the X-Men and we would never even see the FF or Thor or Captain America or they would only be presented to us through the lens of Spider-Man, but that's not the reality.
So, we should, what, obviously box Diana away for good and bring out another Batman title to take her place? Or just pretend that she doesn’t have a larger role in the DCU than just being that woman who shows up in the background during one of Batman’s big stories?
See, because that’s the point. She sells at the same level as Captain America and Thor do and yet, Thor and Captain America are given a lot more weight and prominence in their universe than Diana is given in hers. It's not about replacing or outshining. It's about simply
sharing the spotlight. And, despite your insistence to pick on Wonder Woman, this is not a problem unique to Wonder Woman. DC publishes other titles, but it doesn't throw nearly as much capital behind those other titles or characters as they do behind the Bat-characters and not only that but other characters in the DCU are too often presented through the lens of “how does this person relate to Batman?”
Again, if Marvel editorial operated on that philosophy, most of their iconic characters wouldn't be around either. That's the difference. Marvel has developed properties that may not have an immediate return on investment but lays the groundwork for a more successful universe. Meanwhile, DC sticks with one property over all the others and the universe is weaker for it.
Okay, so tell me, how many of other characters' titles has Batman appeared in just this past month? Now, compare that to Spider-Man. I'm betting that Batman has been in more of other characters' titles than Spidey has. Batman and the Bat-family also have more ongoings than Spider-Man does.
Now, take into account the fact that Amazing Spider-Man actually outsells Batman and Spider-Man is, in general, a higher grossing franchise than Batman is. And yet, Marvel
still doesn't feel the need to pimp out Spider-Man as much as DC does Batman. If your logic held true, wouldn't Marvel be shoving Peter into literally every title?? The answer lies in this simple fact: the leadership at Marvel has more faith in their other characters than the leadership of DC has had in their other characters.
And I know I keep bringing up Marvel, but that's because it's a virtually parallel situation that proves how your logic falls apart. If only investing in your most popular character was the pathway to success, then why is it that Marvel doesn't do that and yet still consistently outsells DC?
Also, what's with the hostility? You like Batman, we get it, but are you so invested in the status quo of Batman-over-everyone that the very notion that other characters/properties deserve a chance to shine is offensive to you?