View Poll Results: Which two Fantastic Four members lives will soon be forever changed?

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  • Reed Richards and Susan Storm

    6 12.24%
  • their children, Franklin and Valeria

    18 36.73%
  • Johnny Storm and Ben Grimm

    5 10.20%
  • some other combination

    20 40.82%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    The fact that this is the only consistent conversation people have about Sue shows Marvel's failure and incompetence with utilizing the character.
    Her characterization so far is mother and wife. We don't exactly have much to go off on.

    Sure, Ultimate Sue may have been an ass, but at least her relationship with Reed wasn't everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.N. Owen View Post
    Her characterization so far is mother and wife. We don't exactly have much to go off on.

    Sure, Ultimate Sue may have been an ass, but at least her relationship with Reed wasn't everything.
    Which is why Sue needs to put on a different team/developed in her own book for a while. The FF team has been stagnating the character for years unfortunately.

    That's the change I want to see for the character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Which is why Sue needs to put on a different team/developed in her own book for a while. The FF team has been stagnating the character for years unfortunately.

    That's the change I want to see for the character.
    She should start her own Illuminati and/or they should bring back the A-Force with her in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimz View Post
    Which is why Sue needs to put on a different team/developed in her own book for a while. The FF team has been stagnating the character for years unfortunately.

    That's the change I want to see for the character.
    The only logical way for Sue to leave the FF and go on to a different team is for her and Reed to have a second separation, other than Reed and her both leaving the FF, but that makes less sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvel Forever View Post
    The only logical way for Sue to leave the FF and go on to a different team is for her and Reed to have a second separation, other than Reed and her both leaving the FF, but that makes less sense.
    The team and the family are two different groups. The family is the overwhelmingly important group, but the team is like work or a job. People can go off to other jobs and still maintain a relationship. I've often said Sue leads the family while Reed leads the team. And let's not forget Reed had his Illuminati stuff. Also, Wolvie has double dipped on teams as well.

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    Isn’t Sue a member of the Daughters of Liberty in Captain America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvel Forever View Post
    The only logical way for Sue to leave the FF and go on to a different team is for her and Reed to have a second separation, other than Reed and her both leaving the FF, but that makes less sense.
    You can be on multiple teams at the same time. Can Marvel even make Susan outside the F4 work? They messed up a lot of their solo outings recently outside of Black Widow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Isnít Sue a member of the Daughters of Liberty in Captain America
    Nothing Coates does is canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    You can be on multiple teams at the same time. Can Marvel even make Susan outside the F4 work? They messed up a lot of their solo outings recently outside of Black Widow.



    Nothing Coates does is canon.
    Yes, I guess you are right. One can be on multiple groups at the same time, though in real life such would be difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force de Phenix View Post
    She should start her own Illuminati and/or they should bring back the A-Force with her in it.
    There is kind of A Force currently in Cap's book. Sue has been a big part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCleghorn View Post
    The team and the family are two different groups. The family is the overwhelmingly important group, but the team is like work or a job. People can go off to other jobs and still maintain a relationship. I've often said Sue leads the family while Reed leads the team. And let's not forget Reed had his Illuminati stuff. Also, Wolvie has double dipped on teams as well.

    Ben was on 2 teams for a while 3 if you count the future foundation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Nothing Coates does is canon.
    Yeah, true. Steve didn't disappear from Avengers when he was in jail/on the run in his solo book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    You can be on multiple teams at the same time. Can Marvel even make Susan outside the F4 work? They messed up a lot of their solo outings recently outside of Black Widow.
    There was no problem with the character in her mini. Sue being on her own felt natural and it didn't feel like it was missing the other members or anything like that (which can be the feeling on some team turn solo books).
    The plot was basic but Sue on her own worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Yeah, definitely this. We already know they want to be parents, but they can't try for their own baby while Ben is in his rocky body, and he only turns human once a year. And they just missed a chance (Ben was out cold thanks to Hulk) so it'll be a while before the next one (and even then, what if it's the wrong time of the month for Alicia?). Adoption makes it so much easier, even if they're not biologically their own, and Alicia won't care that the kids have blue and green skin (though N'Kalla could make herself look like a human if she wanted to, and I can actually see her taking a human disguise named Nicola).
    Plus Reed could give the boy an image inducer.

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    I wish Lyja and Sharon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force de Phenix View Post
    She should start her own Illuminati and/or they should bring back the A-Force with her in it.
    Can't resist - - The Mama-naughty, though by no means limited to actual mothers.

    Therefore: Sue, She-Hulk, Valkrie (several? sure!) Andromeda - she deserves a great story!, Spider Woman & Black Widow, Janet-Wasp 'cuz best friend? and Wanda, and Agatha. That might do it! Oh wait, Crystal and Medusa. got to!

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