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    Default X-Men vs Avengers(Movie Versions)

    The comics could have been better, so let's give the movie versions a try. There's alot so you can pick and choose or comment on all.

    Apocalypse/Jean(Young) vs Captain Marvel

    Jean Grey(Old) vs Wanda

    Barakapool/Blink/Sebastian Shaw vs Thor(first solo movie)

    Composite Juggernaut/Collossus vs Hulk

    Magneto(Young) vs Vision

    Composite Cyclops/Nightcrawler vs Iron Man(first solo movie)

    Composite Wolverine/Sabertooth vs Cap and Bucky

    Psylocke/Lady Deathstrike vs Black Panther/Okoye/Shuri

    Composite Mystique vs Black Widow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    Apocalypse/Jean(Young) vs Captain Marvel
    Apocalypse's powers were [almost] literally whatever the hell plot demanded. So I guess he takes it with him being able to react to Quicksilver?
    Jean Grey(Old) vs Wanda
    Assuming no Phoneix, wanda takes this pretty easily.
    Barakapool/Blink/Sebastian Shaw vs Thor(first solo movie)
    Don't think any of them have enough oomph to hurt Thor, even if Barakapool was a high end bullet timer.
    Composite Juggernaut/Collossus vs Hulk
    Hulk.
    Magneto(Young) vs Vision
    Vision.
    Composite Cyclops/Nightcrawler vs Iron Man(first solo movie)
    Quickdraw. Iron Man seems to have better reactions. So I'd give it to him.
    Composite Wolverine/Sabertooth vs Cap and Bucky
    Bit tricky. I think Cap and Bucky are faster, stronger and more skilled, but not absurdly so. Don't think they can hurt them enough to put them down for ten count.
    Psylocke/Lady Deathstrike vs Black Panther/Okoye/Shuri
    Team Wakanda, easily.
    Composite Mystique vs Black Widow
    Mystique. She was quite explicitly low level superhuman.

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    I’m curious as to your rationale for Magneto losing to someone made of metal.

    Also, to the OP, I’m also curious (no, really, not being sarcastic) what Colossus adds to the composite with Juggs. It’s not a stacked composite by default, so...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    I’m curious as to your rationale for Magneto losing to someone made of metal.

    Also, to the OP, I’m also curious (no, really, not being sarcastic) what Colossus adds to the composite with Juggs. It’s not a stacked composite by default, so...?
    Because Mind Stone Heat Vision(no pun intended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    Because Mind Stone Heat Vision(no pun intended).
    Vision doesn't have any particularly impressive reactions, so there's no reason Mags can't just turn his head. Or just crush him into a tiny ball of Vibranium at the bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    I’m curious as to your rationale for Magneto losing to someone made of metal.

    Also, to the OP, I’m also curious (no, really, not being sarcastic) what Colossus adds to the composite with Juggs. It’s not a stacked composite by default, so...?
    I needed an actual X Man/Mutant in the fight as Juggs is just a ringer.

    E: I think you meant that they were a single character, they are not. It's just composite Juggs.

    That goes for all composites, there are no fusions here just a composite of that one character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Vision doesn't have any particularly impressive reactions, so there's no reason Mags can't just turn his head. Or just crush him into a tiny ball of Vibranium at the bell.
    Intangibility at thought speed? It's not like Magneto can stop him from doing it even while trying to manipulate him.

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    I dont think intangibility would prevent magnetism from working. It affects his density, but he is still totally there. It's not like he is in the astral plane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Arbiter View Post
    I dont think intangibility would prevent magnetism from working. It affects his density, but he is still totally there. It's not like he is in the astral plane.
    The smallest/lightest thing Magneto ever manipulated was iron in a person's blood and he needed extra iron from outside added into it(old Mags) so Vibranium in an intangible state would be beyond him imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    I needed an actual X Man/Mutant in the fight as Juggs is just a ringer.

    E: I think you meant that they were a single character, they are not. It's just composite Juggs.

    That goes for all composites, there are no fusions here just a composite of that one character.
    Gotcha. It’s not ‘Composite (Juggernaut + Colossus)‘, it’s ‘(Composite Juggernaut) + Colossus’.

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    Did they ever explain the general mechanics of how MCU Vision's energy beams and phasing worked, or did they just stick with "LOL Infinity Stones, amirite?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Did they ever explain the general mechanics of how MCU Vision's energy beams and phasing worked, or did they just stick with "LOL Infinity Stones, amirite?"
    That last thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Drizzle View Post
    The comics could have been better, so let's give the movie versions a try. There's alot so you can pick and choose or comment on all.

    Apocalypse/Jean(Young) vs Captain Marvel
    Jean keeps Marvel still, Apocalypse kills her via molecular disruption.

    Jean Grey(Old) vs Wanda
    Wanda.

    Barakapool/Blink/Sebastian Shaw vs Thor(first solo movie)
    Thor. Only Shaw provides a problem and he could get overloaded with power.

    Composite Juggernaut/Collossus vs Hulk
    Hulk.

    Magneto(Young) vs Vision
    Vision wins, but only if he's really smart about it. Being intangible then hitting Eric with super strength is all he needs.

    Composite Cyclops/Nightcrawler vs Iron Man(first solo movie)
    Iron Man.

    Composite Wolverine/Sabertooth vs Cap and Bucky
    Hard to say.

    Psylocke/Lady Deathstrike vs Black Panther/Okoye/Shuri
    Psylocke loses, Okoye and Shuri dispatches her. DS is going to be a problem, she might win here. But it'll be a long fight.

    Composite Mystique vs Black Widow
    Black Widow.
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    Have we ever seen anything indicating that Thor can hit hard enough or fast enough to overload Shaw? Or even anything coming close to overloading Shaw? Guy pretty much casually walked through a pissed off Magneto's attempts to smack him with metal girders on day where Mags was hoisting submarines and catching entire missile barrages. Especially since he can just throw the power back at Thor if he feels like it'sa bit much.

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    I know the Barakapool/Blink/Shaw vs Thor match is random but my thinking was that Thor from his first movie durability wise seriously thought a fall from great heights would kill or severely injure him, his fighting skills seemed average, and his lightning powers were not as potent or easily thrown.

    So Blink with her teleporting Portals would as she shown to do could open portals to redirect lightning from Thor, while providing defense for her team and Shaws energy absorbtion is seriously high and applies to physical and energetic force and he can throw it back at Thor after doing so.

    Barakapool with his Cyclops beams that easily tore through feet thick metal/concrete and can be continuously fired along with his Adamantium blades he can swing with bullet blocking speed, along with his combat teleportation that has him teleporting behind the opponent to strike while they are reacting to the initial hit would be something that would throw off this Thor.

    Also both Jeans have and would use the Phoenix Force in their matches as nothing is preventing them from doing so.

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