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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Happened in 616, still counts
    It splintered off from 616, otherwise every single Marvel title would’ve been sucked into AoA. They even give the timeline its own designated reality number to differentiate it from 616.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    It’s a community...... a community based on the shared goal of trying to keep their species safe anyway they can. You can characterize all those Mutants in whatever way you’d like but the point is Krakoa unites them all because it was touched on every Mutant’s wish to see themselves thrive. That’s why they are not beholden to one ideology or another, despite what you keep insisting.
    A community is made of individuals. The question is how long individuals in a community behave as members of a community and what for. Are the villains in Krakoa just there to make up the numbers or used specifically because they are what they are?

    Xavier and Magneto both shared the need to ensure the well-being of mutants but their methods were so different that they fought each other during a long time. So a common goal isn’t necessarily enough of a cement…
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelena View Post
    A community is made of individuals. The question is how long individuals in a community behave as members of a community and what for. Are the villains in Krakoa just there to make up the numbers or used specifically because they are what they are?
    Is it really necessary to say that? I know what a community is. None of these hypotheticals are addressing or even related to the topic at hand.

    Xavier and Magneto both shared the need to ensure the well-being of mutants but their methods were so different that they fought each other during a long time. So a common goal isn’t necessarily enough of a cement…
    Sometimes I feel like y’all intentionally misrepresent what I’m trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tycon View Post
    Is it really necessary to say that? I know what a community is. None of these hypotheticals are addressing or even related to the topic at hand.
    Sometimes I feel like y’all intentionally misrepresent what I’m trying to say.
    Let’s say it’s a misunderstanding, never mind…
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Appoccy's created two timelines that ended in genocide, three if one count's Cable's future. Combine that with the body count from his terrorist attacks, or those launched by the organization he founded, and I can see why traditional heroes do not trust him.

    Because if it weren't for traditional heroes, Appoccy would have unleashed oceans of blood.
    Seriously none of that matters cause it hasn't happened.lol but bringing it up reeeeeally makes it easy to diffuse, so its not all bad lol

    Oh look Here's Apoc on the side of SHIELD fighting next to the humans to stop the Brood
    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Inquisitor View Post

    Let's go over a few quotes:
    "Leaving humanity behind," and "embracing it proudly." His goal: to conquer humanity and place himself at its head. Which mutant super-villains have said words like this to your recollection? Why were the X-men fighting them?

    The comparison with Loki wasn't about who he is its about who'd defend him if he were a mutant and there isn't a mutant super-villain on Krakoa who isn't.

    seems like Apoc aint tryna get up up in Loki's bullsh!t
    He rides with the Humans lol
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    I mean, all of that was against Morgan who is a tyrant and a piece of **** with a human sacrifice cult, and can't be even considered human at this point.
    It's amazing how well that all describes the X-men these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    It's amazing how well that all describes the X-men these days.
    Wow so you don't consider the Xmen...a group of mutants human?
    Interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Wow so you don't consider the Xmen...a group of mutants human?
    Interesting....
    I do, but they seem to want to stress that they aren't human they're something different everytime they speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    I do, but they seem to want to stress that they aren't human they're something different everytime they speak.
    Probably because people keep calling them humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Krakoa really doesn't need power dampeners. Krakoa IS a power dampener. If they need to lock up any mutant they just need Doug to tell Krakoa "Big guy, gobble up this mutant's psionic energy until he can no longer use his powers".

    That technology can only be used against them, not in their favor. It is normal that they do not want it to exist.
    And what happen if Krakoa cant damper a mutant ?
    What happen if one of the mutants is too strong for that, or if one of the Krakoa residents decides "**** this ****"

    And there is the fact that you are trusting all this powerfull force in one country, Xavier is the current leader, even if you trust him, what happen if a new leader arises?

    I understand the x-men being defensive with the X-Gene, but they are unreasonable if they believe that no form of mutant contention should exist in the world.

    This mini is terrible, Reed acting like this Xavier mindraping allies.

    Forgetable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsus View Post
    And what happen if Krakoa cant damper a mutant ?
    What happen if one of the mutants is too strong for that, or if one of the Krakoa residents decides "**** this ****"
    Nothing.

    And there is the fact that you are trusting all this powerfull force in one country, Xavier is the current leader, even if you trust him, what happen if a new leader arises?
    Xavier's locked that up, they'll have to take it by force he's made him Krakao's unofficial dictator. Magneto would be his biggest rival, except they are like twins these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsus View Post
    And what happen if Krakoa cant damper a mutant ?
    And what if? What if? But also what if?? Did you ever think about what if???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lapsus View Post
    And what happen if Krakoa cant damper a mutant ?
    What if Franklin makes it to Krakoan soil and Krakoa decided now was the time to absorb everyone at once?

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    If Krakoa can't absorb the energy of a mutant it means they're up against someone more powerful than Vulcan and they're screwed anyway.

    It can contain multiple omegas at once (Vulcan, Jean and Iceman)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post
    What if Franklin makes it to Krakoan soil and Krakoa decided now was the time to absorb everyone at once?
    Well he’s been there for three weeks so that sounds like another non-applicable what if.

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