X-Men Fantastic Four # 4 (of 4) Review & Spoilers

[jwatson]

I can't see why anyone would be opposed to her going to KraKoa... I'm not particularly interested in seeing Young ingénue inhuman/human traverse the XWorld to show how hip/cool the character is....

Emma might give her another "where were you.l??!?!" For laughs and giggles and then be all. "Just kidding darling we know where you were."

[marhawkman]

This book's biggest failing is that it tried to make a character like Franklin sympathetic. Putting aside his mistreatment of the disabled in the main Fantastic Four book, there is a major difference in scale between reality warper god wannabe and a soccer player shattering an ankle which the book tries to equivocate so badly. Breaking bones actively inhibits you from doing to most basic of functions like getting out of bed and even bathing. Not being able to reality warp means you can't turn your DnD game into a reality. These is a pretty big difference in scale between the two. It doesn't help that Franklin is less of a character and more of a tool throughout these four issues. He kicks off the plot, causes problems, and then leaves.

It's also a lot like M-Day where most mutants simply got turned into normal humans.

[TooFlyToFail]

Here's the thing. Almost anything can be coopted for an evil purpose. Xavier simply existing? Red skull uses brain surgery and tissue grafting to make himself the most powerful telepath.

Fritz Haber was a jewish chemist who made ammonia based fertilizers and process for creating it on an industrial level. He won a nobel prize for it. However it was eventually used to gas Jews with Zyklon B. It also helped prolong the war effort on the german side by allowing them more food supplies, and nitrogen compounds for explosives.

Should he have not made it?

Thank God someone made this point. Rather than the constant minority report nonsense going on.

[TooFlyToFail]

Franklin's "you didn't listen to me" is nonsense...he did not give them a chance to listen to what he wanted. They had the confrontation with the X-Men, Kitty sneaked him out and meandered him towards the gate and after he couldn't go thru he went to his room and sulked before he ran away. Yes they should have talked about it...but at the end of the day his parents are his parents and if they say "no" the answer is "no".

As far as wiping Reed's mind...I want that to come back and bite Xavier in the butt. So what if he can built tech like that...he would not use it. And did Xavier do the same thing to Forge? He built a power remover that was used on Storm. Or does Forge get a pass because he possesses the holy mutant gene?

This whole series was a goat rope from the jump...the characters were written to fit the story and not the other way around.

More logic. So refreshing.

[BroHomo]

.but at the end of the day his parents are his parents and if they say "no" the answer is "no".

As far as wiping Reed's mind...I want that to come back and bite Xavier in the butt. So what if he can built tech like that...he would not use it. And did Xavier do the same thing to Forge? He built a power remover that was used on Storm. Or does Forge get a pass because he possesses the holy mutant gene?

Eh parents dont always know/have the best interest of their kid....gotta throw the dice
No Forge wasnt tryna depower superheroes but demons, Forge made it at the request of the US government, not to discipline a teenager,and ANND Forges gun wasnt built to specifically take the power away from a persecuted minority.

It's also a lot like M-Day where most mutants simply got turned into normal humans.

Eh A lotta mutants also died.

More logic. So refreshing.

Why should Xavier get "bit in the butt" but doing something Reed, and other heroes were doing on a monthly basis during the incursions ?

[Steel Inquisitor]

Eh parents dont always know/have the best interest of their kid....gotta throw the dice
No Forge wasnt tryna depower superheroes but demons, Forge made it at the request of the US government, not to discipline a teenager,and ANND Forges gun wasnt built to specifically take the power away from a persecuted minority.

Putting a young boy with weakened powers on an island with Sinister is sending a lamb to the slaughter. Krakoa has horrible "restraints" on their villains, they don't even have any on Apocalypse.

Eh A lotta mutants also died.

And they're all bought back by resurrection technology. The de powered have to die to be reborn, that's a deliberate choice the Quiet Council approved Wanda didn't actually mean to kill those mutants.

Why should Xavier get "bit in the butt" but doing something Reed, and other heroes were doing on a monthly basis during the incursions ?

Xavier was on the Illuminati, he has no moral high ground over Reed.

[Veitha]

Xavier was actually the nice one in the Illuminati lol and he didn't take part in Negative Zone prison building, illegal cloning or building weapons for genocide.

[BroHomo]

Putting a young boy with weakened powers on an island with Sinister is sending a lamb to the slaughter. Krakoa has horrible "restraints" on their villains, they don't even have any on Apocalypse.

For parents who let their younger daughter gallivant with a murderous dictator, this shouldnt be a problem, unless its cause their mutants?

And they're all bought back by resurrection technology. The de powered have to die to be reborn, that's a deliberate choice the Quiet Council approved Wanda didn't actually mean to kill those mutants.

Only the ones in the 616

Xavier was on the Illuminati, he has no moral high ground over Reed.

Xavier was actually the nice one in the Illuminati lol and he didn't take part in Negative Zone prison building, illegal cloning or building weapons for genocide.

lol YES! YES! YES!
Killin 'em softly

[Zelena]

Xavier was actually the nice one in the Illuminati lol and he didn't take part in Negative Zone prison building, illegal cloning or building weapons for genocide.

The nice one, yes. He has changed a great deal.

[Killerbee911]

Xavier was on the Illuminati, he has no moral high ground over Reed.

He doesn't need a moral high ground Reed is repeat offender when it comes to science. Maybe the people wishing for Xavier and Mags getting bite in the butt from this decision needs to be reminded that Reed create Clor. He didn't learn from Clor he used same type of thinking to create his gene masking device.

[Glio]

Namor was the only one of the Illuminati who knew that sending the Hulk into space was a bad idea, for how smart they are they can be very stupid.

[marhawkman]

Krakoa has horrible "restraints" on their villains, they don't even have any on Apocalypse.

It's also working great on Selene, she has done absolutely nothing evil on Krakoa. In Captain America though? Well... she's been playing with the Red Skull. It's one of those situations where even the Red Skull is polite and courteous... because he REALLY doesn't want to make her angry. She's already kicked Cap's butt twice and she made it look easy. Oh wait, for her it's a squash match to end all squash matches. Round 1: the floors him with an energy blast so powerful it almost knocks him unconscious even though he shield blocked it. Round2: she snaps her fingers and tells the entire town to kill him... because she'd already exerted her mental influence on them all. Yeah Cap hasn't got a hope of actually beating her. For some reason she's declined to kill him though. She's made it super obvious that she's toying with him and doesn't feel like killing him. we don't know why yet.

[TooFlyToFail]

I can see her building his gear for the fight or trying to get him to wear lots of body armor and equipped with lots of sci-fi weapons lol

Then she'd tell Uncle Doom all about it, during a lunch date.

[marhawkman]

Then she'd tell Uncle Doom all about it, during a lunch date.

Oh yes... Valeria.

Technically that's a.... no-longer-possible future version, but... dang... She was REALLY dangerous. If present Valeria goes that route...

[Steel Inquisitor]

He doesn't need a moral high ground Reed is repeat offender when it comes to science. Maybe the people wishing for Xavier and Mags getting bite in the butt from this decision needs to be reminded that Reed create Clor. He didn't learn from Clor he used same type of thinking to create his gene masking device.

Reed fans don't need to reminded of how badly written he was in Civil War, we don't defend it. Magneto has absolutely no say in anything, he started out by trying to kill mutant teenagers and it got worse from there. Since mutants are vulnerable to being hunted by mutant dejecting devices it is very suspicious that Krakoa isn't trying to perfect that and mass produce it so they'd all be invisible to Sentinels and anti-mutant terrorist groups.