X-Men Fantastic Four # 4 (of 4) Review & Spoilers

[Hulkout42]

What if he is slain and it doesn't restore him at all?

Sue unleashes a mother's fury on them, Reed makes better sentinels, Johnny torches the island to a crisp and Ben shows how it is he managed to knock out Banner in one punch.

Oh and Valeria gets Doctor Doom involved and they show what super intelligent Homo Sapiens can do when they are motivated.

But what are the odds they would do something as stupid as putting Franklin up against Apocalypse?

[Chris0013]

Sue unleashes a mother's fury on them, Reed makes better sentinels, Johnny torches the island to a crisp and Ben shows how it is he managed to knock out Banner in one punch.

Oh and Valeria gets Doctor Doom involved and they show what super intelligent Homo Sapiens can do when they are motivated.

But what are the odds they would do something as stupid as putting Franklin up against Apocalypse?

Considering what Franklin did to Norman Osborn with a toy gun....I don't think Apocalypse stands a chance.

[BroHomo]

Sue unleashes a mother's fury on them, Reed makes better sentinels, Johnny torches the island to a crisp and Ben shows how it is he managed to knock out Banner in one punch.

Oh and Valeria gets Doctor Doom involved and they show what super intelligent Homo Sapiens can do when they are motivated.

But what are the odds they would do something as stupid as putting Franklin up against Apocalypse?

Did It feel good to get this out...lol

[Hulkout42]

Did It feel good to get this out...lol

Why i don't know what you mean friend.

[Lapsus]

OMG

The Krakoans

Apocalypse: The method works and the theory is correct, obviously the problem is the child.

Apocalypse would wreck the kid because is a sword fight without powers, he is not figthing endgame Galactus tier Franklin Richards.

The funny thing is Apocalypse losing the sword fight against someone, that would be fucked, evertytime that Apocalypse enter the crucible a little thought "If i lose this fight i would have to murder every witness in this island"

[Lapsus]

Double post, sorry.

[Steel Inquisitor]

Apocalypse: The method works and the theory is correct, obviously the problem is the child.

Apocalypse would wreck the kid because is a sword fight without powers, he is not figthing endgame Galactus tier Franklin Richards.

The funny thing is Apocalypse losing the sword fight against someone, that would be fucked, evertytime that Apocalypse enter the crucible a little thought "If i lose this fight i would have to murder every witness in this island"

The Crucible isn't a fight to the death, the fight is to the person opposing Apocalypse to follow his script and every time he knocks them down to make them get more motivated to gain his approval and once he has it - he slaughters them as a "reward." Think of it like drill sergeant breaking down a recruit for training, only when they succeed he kills them.

[Lapsus]

The Crucible isn't a fight to the death, the fight is to the person opposing Apocalypse to follow his script and every time he knocks them down to make them get more motivated to gain his approval and once he has it - he slaughters them as a "reward." Think of it like drill sergeant breaking down a recruit for training, only when they succeed he kills them.

I know, and the chances of somenone beating Apo are basically 0 but the idea of one of them beating him when that shouldnt happen...miracle on ice mutant version.

[BroHomo]

The Crucible isn't a fight to the death, the fight is to the person opposing Apocalypse to follow his script and every time he knocks them down to make them get more motivated to gain his approval and once he has it - he slaughters them as a "reward." Think of it like drill sergeant breaking down a recruit for training, only when they succeed he kills them.

Soooo kinda like any military training?
Except afterwards the recruit isnt reborn stronger, and a more complete person than before :/

[Steel Inquisitor]

Soooo kinda like any military training?
Except afterwards the recruit isnt reborn stronger, and a more complete person than before :/

It's like military training, but that's not all it is. It's a cult initiation ritual and it ends with the victim demanding to be "sacrificed" AKA murdered, so the "newborn" is not only blindly obedient to Krakoa but associates Krakao with Apocalypse himself. They;'re convinced they owe Apocalypse everything when all he's doing is killing them, the Five do all the work.

[numberthirty]

It's like military training, but that's not all it is. It's a cult initiation ritual and it ends with the victim demanding to be "sacrificed" AKA murdered, so the "newborn" is not only blindly obedient to Krakoa but associates Krakao with Apocalypse himself. They;'re convinced they owe Apocalypse everything when all he's doing is killing them, the Five do all the work.

No, it's nothing like any of that.

If anything it is like Baptists wanting folks who want to be Baptists to seriously consider if they actually accept the savior.

Never mind that there is absolutely nothing in the books that points to that anyone on the island believes what is in blue. You are going to need a direct citation for anyone to even entertain the idea.

[Zelena]

No, it's nothing like any of that.

If anything it is like Baptists wanting folks who want to be Baptists to seriously consider if they actually accept the savior.

Never mind that there is absolutely nothing in the books that points to that anyone on the island believes what is in blue. You are going to need a direct citation for anyone to even entertain the idea.

It’s certainly a political move from Apocalypse. During the Crucible, he’s the one that does the show…

[numberthirty]

It’s certainly a political move from Apocalypse. During the Crucible, he’s the one that does the show…

Which is completely different from the assertion that Apocalypse is acting as some sort of a cult leader or initiating members into said cult.

What it actually is is a political move aimed at getting currently powerless mutants to seriously consider undergoing having their respective powers regained through the process that involved The Five.

[Veitha]

Which is completely different from the assertion that Apocalypse is acting as some sort of a cult leader or initiating members into said cult.

What it actually is is a political move aimed at getting currently powerless mutants to seriously consider undergoing having their respective powers regained through the process that involved The Five.

And it's also to avoid mass suicides which the Five can't handle.

[numberthirty]

And it's also to avoid mass suicides which the Five can't handle.

Of course.

There are a few obvious political/logistical realities that said process was obviously put in place to contend with.

We know that to be the case because nothing that we have seen points to any large number of those powerless mutants have killed themselves in the time since the initial Crucible.