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    List of ice based villains and fire based heroes. I'm sure there are more out there.

    Ice based Villains:
    Blizard [Dark Nemesis]
    Blue Snowman (Byrna Brilyant)
    Captain Cold (Leonard Snart)
    Chill [New Rogues]
    Chillblaine I-IV [Flash foes]
    Coldsnap [Darrel, Masters of Disaster]
    Cryonic Man (Philip, Outsiders foe]
    Endless Winter (Delores Winters]
    Frostbite [Conglomerate, Qwardian]
    Glacier [Expediters, Inc]
    Glacier [Titans foe]
    Ice King [Evil Eight, Dial H villain]
    Iceberg Head [Aquaman foe]
    Icicle (Joar Mahkent)
    Icicle (James Christie)
    Icicle (Cameron Mahkent)
    Killer Frost (Crystal Frost)
    Killer Frost (Louise Lincoln)
    Minister Blizzard [Wonder Woman foe]
    Mister Freeze (Victor Fries)
    Mrs. Freeze (Nora Fries)
    New Moon [Moon Dancers]
    Snowman (Klaus Kristin)
    Split-Man (Gregory Cahill)
    Weather Witch [New Rogues]
    Weather Wizard (Mark Mardon)
    Yuki-Onna, the Snow Woman [Rising Sun/Superman foe]
    Others:
    Bizarro [Ice Vision]
    Replicant [internalized Captain Cold's Ice Gun powers]

    Fire based Heroes:
    Bonfire (Anne Fletcher)
    Boss Bishonen [Big Science Action]
    Boss Bosozuko [Big Science Action]
    Burnout (Bobby Lane)
    Calamity (Olive Silverlock)
    Celsius (Arani Desai)
    Corona (Kako)
    Crazy Jane (Kay Challis)
    Etrigan the Demon
    Fever (Shyleen Lao)
    Fire (Bonilla DaCosta)
    Fireball (Sonya Chuikov)
    Fireball [Crusaders, Freedom Fighters ally]
    Firebrand (Danette Reilly)
    Firebrand (Andre Twist)
    Firebrand (Janet Fals)
    Firehawk (Lorraine Reilly)
    Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond and Jason Rusch)
    Flamebird (Thara Ak-Var)
    H-Dial weilders
    Hot Spot (Isaiah Crockett)
    Hotshot (William Lefferts)
    Inferno (Frank Verrano, Mighty Crusaders) - no longer licensed by DC
    Inferno (Sandy Anderson)
    Kishana Lewis [JLA ally]
    Linda Danvers
    Kid Devil (Edward Bloomberg)
    Maya (Chandi Gupta)
    Pozhar (Mikhail Arkadin)
    Pyrogen (Claudio Tielli)
    Red Inferno (Seth Aiden)
    Red Star (Leonid Kovar)
    Rising Sun (Izumi Yasunari)
    Salamander (Ginger O'Shea)
    Samurai (Toshio Eto)
    Scorch (Aubrey Sparks) - sometime ally of J'onn J'onzz
    Scorch (Scott Fischer)
    Son of Vulcan (Miguel Devante)
    Sparky [Crusaders, Freedom Fighters ally]
    Sunburst (Takeo Sato)
    Sunburst (Takeo's replacement)
    Wildfire (Carol Vance Martin)

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    So is there going to be yet another reboot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by achilles View Post
    So is there going to be yet another reboot?
    A CoIE or Flashpoint kind? Not likely. A post Infinite Crisis kind? Probably. But that will be tied to Death Metal, not this I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    A CoIE or Flashpoint kind? Not likely. A post Infinite Crisis kind? Probably. But that will be tied to Death Metal, not this I suspect.
    I'm not so sure CoIE or Flashpoint kind of reboot is unlikely.

    I mean, Death Metal story is about reshape the multiverse, that seems to be the perfect opportunity for that kind of reboot. Not to mentions that the current continuity is a total mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    I'm not so sure CoIE or Flashpoint kind of reboot is unlikely.

    I mean, Death Metal story is about reshape the multiverse, that seems to be the perfect opportunity for that kind of reboot. Not to mentions that the current continuity is a total mess.
    And in 10 years we will be saying "I wouldn't rule out a Death Metal-type reboot as unlikely. The current continuity is a mess"

    Reboots are nothing but a band-aid. A McGuffin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    A CoIE or Flashpoint kind? Not likely. A post Infinite Crisis kind? Probably. But that will be tied to Death Metal, not this I suspect.
    Oh, I hope not. Not as the basis for the DCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Goblin of Sector 2814 View Post
    Uh, Superman and all the Kryptonians as well.
    Technically, with their freeze breath the Kryptonians or Daxamites could be on either side of ice v. fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by achilles View Post
    So is there going to be yet another reboot?
    Just an event, if that. I don't think it's anything like a reboot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    I'm not so sure CoIE or Flashpoint kind of reboot is unlikely.

    I mean, Death Metal story is about reshape the multiverse, that seems to be the perfect opportunity for that kind of reboot. Not to mentions that the current continuity is a total mess.
    I am. They’re not starting over from scratch again, we already know that Tynion’s Batman run for example will be continuing through 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I am. They’re not starting over from scratch again, we already know that Tynion’s Batman run for example will be continuing through 2021.
    New52 doesn't start over from scratch for Batman either.

    I guess we will have to wait and see how everything unfolds.

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    Well, at least it'll make sense when Superman is useless this time around given no sunlight. I hope he has a good showing in some fashion, even as a support character.

    Honestly, my only real hope is it's not more Batwank. I can't really handle any more of it.

    I'd love if Ice (and Guy) were somehow in this, but I know neither will. Ah well. With the cold in full effect and heat/fire presumably scarce, this is J'onn's time to shine. I imagine it wouldn't be fun for the Atlantians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle View Post
    And in 10 years we will be saying "I wouldn't rule out a Death Metal-type reboot as unlikely. The current continuity is a mess"

    Reboots are nothing but a band-aid. A McGuffin.
    With their track record, yeah, by ten years they could easily screw up even a rebooted continuity. But at this point any continuity is less of a mess than the current one. This one just takes the cake entirely. Its a disaster of epic proportions. And again based on track record, Death Metal has a better chance of making it worse as opposed to better.

    As for the event, considering the way DC operates this will be headlined by Mr. Freeze, and by extension, Batman. Same ole same ole.
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    I’d like to think they wouldn’t follow up an event revolving around Batmen with another event revolving around Batman and a Bat Rog-

    Lmao I can’t even finish that sentence. But I’m going to hope that’s not what this is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Mikel Janin designs?

    I wonder who's coming back...

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