Dr. Doom vs. Doomsday

[The Arbiter]

Holy thread spam Batman!

616 Doom and Post Crisis HP Doomsday.

Arena.

Obviously Doomsday would flatten Doom if he gets close. Can Doom's esoterics prevent that from happening?

[Beadle]

Doomsday have any appreciable resistance to:
a) magic?
b) Ovoid mind transfer-type shenanigans?

If b) would work, Vic just makes himself into Dr Doomsday.

[The Dork Knight]

How does the mind transfer work in a rumbles scenario? Does Dr Doomsday KOing Victor von Doomsday count as a win for Dr Doom? Technically it would be his body getting KOd

[The Arbiter]

Doomsday has some TP resistance to his name right? What's the Ovoid's best feat? Who has it worked on?

[Shai-Hulud]

How does the mind transfer work in a rumbles scenario? Does Dr Doomsday KOing Victor von Doomsday count as a win for Dr Doom? Technically it would be his body getting KOd

I think what happens with OMT is Doom's armor locks up and traps the transfer target. So Doom, in Doomsday's body, simply counts to ten while Doomsday is helplessly "pinned" within the armor.

[Pendaran]

How does the mind transfer work in a rumbles scenario? Does Dr Doomsday KOing Victor von Doomsday count as a win for Dr Doom? Technically it would be his body getting KOd

As long as Doom is in some fashion conscious and mobile, even if in another dude's body, and the other dude is not, that should be a win from my view.

[The Arbiter]

As long as Doom is in some fashion conscious and mobile, even if in another dude's body, and the other dude is not, that should be a win from my view.

That's my view as well.

Again, this assumes the thing works.

[The Dork Knight]

I guess Doom wins then considering Doomsday has that precedent of Braniac controlling his body. Yeah he was fighting him off but not in 10 seconds

Also, I think transfering mental consciousness is somewhat different from direct telepathy. So leaning towards Dr Doom here (for a 10 count), especially if the armour just freezes DD in Dooms body. Doom controlling Doomsday doesn't really have to do much other than not get kicked out for 10 seconds

[Cronus]

And there's the obvious BFR too.

[Beadle]

And there's the obvious BFR too.

Absolutely. D-dump is definitely a thing he can do.

Time-dump too, but unless it’s ‘dump him at the Big Bang’ or ‘dump him at the destruction of the universe’, I’m not sure how effective that would be.

[Pendaran]

Absolutely. D-dump is definitely a thing he can do.

Time-dump too, but unless it’s ‘dump him at the Big Bang’ or ‘dump him at the destruction of the universe’, I’m not sure how effective that would be.

They're in the area, moving him back through time is pointless. Doomsday will just, you know, ride out the ensuing span of years until fight time again.

It might be worth moving him a few hours into the future as far as giving Doom time to cast a bunch of spells until they catch up to each other, but really that's inefficient and potentially won't accomplish much compared to just win via mind transfer.

[Beadle]

They're in the area, moving him back through time is pointless. Doomsday will just, you know, ride out the ensuing span of years until fight time again.

It might be worth moving him a few hours into the future as far as giving Doom time to cast a bunch of spells until they catch up to each other, but really that's inefficient and potentially won't accomplish much compared to just win via mind transfer.

Exactly my point. Unless it’s something that is sufficiently powerful (i.e. the beginning or end of the universe), Doomsday would just find a book of sudoku or something and wait it out.

Maybe he’d take up knitting.

He could call himself Loomsday.

[The Chou Lives]

Mind transfer should work. As DD in Dooms body gets pinned by armor and Doom just flexed in his new body.

[Slade1]

Doesn't the Ovoid mind transfer take a lit bit of eye to eye contact for it work? Or does Doom just look at DD and just transfer his body?

[The Arbiter]

I guess Doom wins then considering Doomsday has that precedent of Braniac controlling his body. Yeah he was fighting him off but not in 10 seconds

Also, I think transfering mental consciousness is somewhat different from direct telepathy. So leaning towards Dr Doom here (for a 10 count), especially if the armour just freezes DD in Dooms body. Doom controlling Doomsday doesn't really have to do much other than not get kicked out for 10 seconds

If you dont feel it acts as direct telepathy, does that mean you feel TP resistance feats play no part in resisting it?