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    Default What's up with DC editorial regarding WW? Is another reboot on the horizon?

    Are editors still going to get in the way in every run, and be the rock that prevents Diana and her wordl from having a clear direction and character development?

    Are they going to reboot all over again? I just can't understand why DC can't allow Diana to settle. Feels like her runs nowadays are just going through the motion. Not enough of her personality and goals are shown. Not enough of her emotions are shown. Her powers don't get to shine in big ways either. Too much sword and shield. The same problem is there for her villains, who rarely get treated with respect.

    Is there any hope that the future of this book can be better? Or are we stuck in mediocre and soft reboot runs for all eternity? Share your opinion and if you can, please give me some hope.

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    Honestly, this is how I feel about the general direction of most DC books at the moment outside of a handful, though yeah it feels particularly noticeable with Wonder Woman since Rucka left and in light of the success of the movie.

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    I don’t even keep up with DC’s plans but I think it’s safe to say another reboot is on the horizon. Another reboot is always on the horizon. It’s the business model these days. Goose comic book sales every couple of years with a new status quo and a bunch of new number ones.

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    I feel like they wouldn’t kick Orlando off if they didn’t plan on Tamaki being the next long term writer, but given she’s been brought on to do some movie synergy I don’t know if she’ll last beyond whatever DC has planned after Death Metal and Endless Winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I feel like they wouldn’t kick Orlando off if they didn’t plan on Tamaki being the next long term writer, but given she’s been brought on to do some movie synergy I don’t know if she’ll last beyond whatever DC has planned after Death Metal and Endless Winter.
    Tynion's marching orders were to get Batman to #100 and hand it off, but plans changed and they kept him on following the good reception of his run. On Batman. Their flagship book.

    Tamaki will stay on if sales uptick for Diana and positive word-of-mouth spreads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo161 View Post
    I don’t even keep up with DC’s plans but I think it’s safe to say another reboot is on the horizon. Another reboot is always on the horizon. It’s the business model these days. Goose comic book sales every couple of years with a new status quo and a bunch of new number ones.
    Absolutely true. It's the case for so many titles. I have mixed feelings about it. I like continuity, you have to understand. From the time I started reading comics in the mid 1990s until One More Day, I read only Marvel, because Marvel didn't reboot universes, and I'd head about Crisis. After One More Day, I quit reading Marvel. When I first got into DC a few years ago, I decided to stick only to pre-52 stuff because at least I'd know going in it was going to be erased, and not get attached to a new version and get it swiped out from under me. Was a failure on both accounts - got quite attached to both pre and post COI versions of certain characters* and ended up looking at some post-Rebirth stuff, too. But as much as I love a long history of continuity, there are two things that I have to admit. The first is that #1s, relaunches, resets, sell. The second is that I think continuity is such a mess right now that I don't know if anything can be done to successfully get it on track without at least some soft reboots.

    I think the reboots and resets are going to end up driving me away from really caring about new comics, though. I'm not even sure it's a bad thing for DC. Devoted niche fanbases who love continuity really probably won't make as much money as broad, shallow audience of casual readers. The trick will be in capturing that segment. The totally-out-of-continuity OGNs will probably be better at it than the floppies. But I can't say I care about most of those**, because the characters often have so very little in common with the characters I loved. But then again, for casual and especially ever-changing audiences (as they once had in the old days), that's less of a concern. Don't know if the companies will pull it off. I'm really only interested in an academic sense - after all, if they aren't writing the stories I want to read, it doesn't really matter much to me in an emotional sense if the comics/characters keep getting published.



    * Still avoiding pre-COIE Bea da Costa and Jason Todd for worry of getting attached to radically different versions, though.

    ** I do tend to like the idea of period pieces. Of Clark in the 1930s or Diana in the 1940s and that sort of thing. Of taking old norms and using a more modern storytelling method on them. Unfortunately, I'm often not fond of the "twist" everyone wants to add. I get why the twist is needed - too derivative, otherwise. But I guess derivative is what I'm looking for in a period piece - a story that would fit in the golden age continuity, but told in a modern way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    Absolutely true. It's the case for so many titles. I have mixed feelings about it. I like continuity, you have to understand. From the time I started reading comics in the mid 1990s until One More Day, I read only Marvel, because Marvel didn't reboot universes, and I'd head about Crisis. After One More Day, I quit reading Marvel. When I first got into DC a few years ago, I decided to stick only to pre-52 stuff because at least I'd know going in it was going to be erased, and not get attached to a new version and get it swiped out from under me. Was a failure on both accounts - got quite attached to both pre and post COI versions of certain characters* and ended up looking at some post-Rebirth stuff, too. But as much as I love a long history of continuity, there are two things that I have to admit. The first is that #1s, relaunches, resets, sell. The second is that I think continuity is such a mess right now that I don't know if anything can be done to successfully get it on track without at least some soft reboots.
    I don’t have mixed feelings about it. I think it sucks—in terms of the resulting quality of stories. These decades old properties are always going to have messy continuity. There is no way to satisfactorily explain why the characters don’t age in real time. They need to stop using these inescapable factors as an excuse for the constant resetting. But they won’t.

    What’s really egregious is when they try to start with a clean slate, but then decide they want to re-incorporate things they have erased— only this time they’re going to “make it all make sense.”
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    Chances of a reboot are slim to none. Death Metal is supposed to try and "fix" continuity. The way they make it sound is that they want to take what they got now and try to make sense of it. Which they'll surely fail at as they always do when they tackle such endeavors. I don't know if that means she'll stay as the first superhero and tied to the JSA, that's up in the air considering it was originally a 5G idea and 5G is mostly dead. It can easily stay or go at this juncture. But they won't go the clean slate route again. Even though at this rate, I think they'd actually be better off doing it. I have no trust that they'll be able to make sense out of the trash heap that is current continuity.
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