Originally Posted by
gregpersons
I'm interested and enough of a forgiver toward Bat media that I'm almost certainly going to purchase the Blu ray for the interactive aspect and I'm sure I'm going to be disappointed by it. (And hopefully with these expectations, I might enjoy it)
Here's my main thought on this however -- it is remarkable to me how consistently DC has pushed Death In The Family and The Killing Joke as being the premier Bat stories, always being reprinted and reappropriated or homaged or adapted. Maybe it's not really, but it just feels like DC prizes these stories so much higher than almost any others besides the Miller Dark Knight books. Why?
Why are these stories definitive and remarkable? Because they're stories where the Joker wins by torturing and killing or maiming Robin or Batgirl. So they feel like more important stories because the stakes are getting raised. The bad guy wins, and one of the good guys is lost in the war. It's tragic, the tension between Batman and Joker is heightened, and it's (theoretically) "shocking" that the story would do such a thing to such a character.
It's not just Batman ... "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" and "Death of Superman" are also equally mediocre stories that have attained "God-tier" status because they're "shocking moments." It's not just that the companies/creators push these, but also the audience eats it up, and the media hypes up the event because of the sensationalism of killing Robin or raping Batgirl, and so it becomes popular because it needed to be, not necessarily because it was good quality.
Not sure what exactly I'm saying. It's just interesting. DC has made a fine mint having Joker kill Robins and Batgirls over the last 40 years.
Edit -- Let me add a bit more of the positive thoughts here too.
I really loved Under The Red Hood... it's the best version of the Jason story. I'm excited the team is getting back together -- the voice cast is actually my favorite for the characters; all love and respect to Conry and Hamill but I'm ready to be able to miss them. Bruce Greenwood especially feels very right for Bruce, and NPH as Nightwing was the best on-screen Dynamic Duo in any feature film.
What other Bat movie comes close to Under The Red Hood in showing how effective Bruce & Dick are as a team? I'm glad this "universe" of DC film is continuing but it just feels a bit disappointing that it's just re-treading the same Jason story as the first film. But, I'm also trying to keep an open mind too -- just venting the disappointment.
This is what I would like. This same cast and level of animation but for a Bat Family that isn't dying!! Just working a case together as a (slightly dysfunctional) family detective agency/ninja clan..