Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 53
  1. #16
    Astonishing Member Shellhead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    2,229

    Default

    Depends on the hat:

  2. #17
    Extraordinary Member Cody's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    5,000

    Default

    Couldn't Surfer just turn everyone into a block of cheese and call it a day? And KC Supes doesn't have anything on Gladiator in terms of physical strength and durability, so speed equalized still makes KC Supes look out to be a diet Gladiator. Not that it matters since transmutation from Surfer should still be a game ender.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Len Ikari145 View Post
    I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.
    Saint Seiya Online:
    https://reborngn.com/?page=register&ref=408192
    ^-my referral

  3. #18
    Astonishing Member Slade1's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,466

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Couldn't Surfer just turn everyone into a block of cheese and call it a day? And KC Supes doesn't have anything on Gladiator in terms of physical strength and durability, so speed equalized still makes KC Supes look out to be a diet Gladiator. Not that it matters since transmutation from Surfer should still be a game ender.
    Alan Scott and Dr.Fate can counter transmutation. Hector once reversed Spectre's transmutation on Superman.

  4. #19
    BANNED The Dork Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    5,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Couldn't Surfer just turn everyone into a block of cheese and call it a day? And KC Supes doesn't have anything on Gladiator in terms of physical strength and durability, so speed equalized still makes KC Supes look out to be a diet Gladiator. Not that it matters since transmutation from Surfer should still be a game ender.
    Alan or Hector could just transmute everyone back, if Surfer would even get a chance to get fancy

    KC Superman is more powerful than post crisis Superman, who's the "diet Gladiator" if anything
    Last edited by The Dork Knight; 08-02-2020 at 10:29 AM.

  5. #20
    Extraordinary Member Cody's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    5,000

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    Alan or Hector could just transmute everyone back, if Surfer would even get a chance to get fancy

    KC Superman is more powerful than post crisis Superman so idk how that's a "diet Gladiator".
    Same reason why Gladiator was considered to be a "diet pc superman". KC Supes is the closest thing here to Gladiators physical abilities yet still greatly falls short against a guy who can shatter a planet with a few strikes and only gets a minor concussion from a contained attack stated to have the destructive output capable of destroying most of a solar system.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Len Ikari145 View Post
    I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.
    Saint Seiya Online:
    https://reborngn.com/?page=register&ref=408192
    ^-my referral

  6. #21
    BANNED The Dork Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    5,329

    Default

    Also he doesn't even need the speed equalizer considering various feats where he was too fast for Jay or post crisis Superman and compared to Wally West

  7. #22
    Extraordinary Member Cody's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    5,000

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    Also he doesn't even need the speed equalizer considering various feats where he was too fast for Jay or post crisis Superman and compared to Wally West
    Gladiator is compared to Surfer in the speed department, while I don't recall anything from KC Supes that puts him in that tier.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Len Ikari145 View Post
    I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.
    Saint Seiya Online:
    https://reborngn.com/?page=register&ref=408192
    ^-my referral

  8. #23
    BANNED The Dork Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    5,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Same reason why Gladiator was considered to be a "diet pc superman". KC Supes is the closest thing here to Gladiators physical abilities yet still greatly falls short against a guy who can shatter a planet with a few strikes and only gets a minor concussion from a contained attack stated to have the destructive output capable of destroying most of a solar system.
    Convergence has Superman's punch being stated to move planets

    https://m.imgur.com/Bdc0cHP

    Even without that, anyone so clearly above post crisis Superman is at least as strong as Gladiator

    The solar system buster stuff doesnt really match up even with Gladiator's other feats like the heat inside a star becoming unbearable or not even one shotting the planet and for that matter kinda happens off panel.
    Last edited by The Dork Knight; 08-02-2020 at 10:53 AM.

  9. #24
    BANNED The Dork Knight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    5,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Gladiator is compared to Surfer in the speed department, while I don't recall anything from KC Supes that puts him in that tier.
    https://m.imgur.com/6v6TI3X

  10. #25
    Extraordinary Member Cody's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    5,000

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    Ehh a guy below the speed of light who says someone is maybe as fast as Wally isn't really indictive of much. Has KC Supes even shown to be much faster than post crisis Supes? Let alone as fast as Wally?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Len Ikari145 View Post
    I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.
    Saint Seiya Online:
    https://reborngn.com/?page=register&ref=408192
    ^-my referral

  11. #26
    Extraordinary Member Pendaran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    7,271

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Couldn't Surfer just turn everyone into a block of cheese and call it a day? And KC Supes doesn't have anything on Gladiator in terms of physical strength and durability, so speed equalized still makes KC Supes look out to be a diet Gladiator. Not that it matters since transmutation from Surfer should still be a game ender.
    Kingdom Come Superman being so far beyond post crisis Supes sets him competitively just fine.

    And in a speed equalized fight, everybody with esoterics can counter everyone else's esoterics.

  12. #27
    Extraordinary Member Pendaran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    7,271

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Ehh a guy below the speed of light who says someone is maybe as fast as Wally isn't really indictive of much. Has KC Supes even shown to be much faster than post crisis Supes? Let alone as fast as Wally?
    post crisis Supes is within Jay's speed range. When KC Supes is that much faster than Jay, it gives a strong weight to his observations.

    The big center of this fight remains Obsidian and his potentially mind controlling half the other team.

  13. #28
    Extraordinary Member Cody's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    5,000

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    post crisis Supes is within Jay's speed range. When KC Supes is that much faster than Jay, it gives a strong weight to his observations.

    The big center of this fight remains Obsidian and his potentially mind controlling half the other team.
    Yeah but there is a huge gap between Jay and Wally, is it really accurate to say KC Supes is a speed pier of Wallys?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Drunkard Kid View Post
    Physically grabbing an released Black Hole to stop it is like throwing a sandwich at Galactus to stop him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Len Ikari145 View Post
    I stand by my belief of Toriyama seeing a certain match online and going "Oh Yeah?!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Every time you say the name of some kind of nonsense martial art, an angel gets its wings, and Val Armorr learns the martial art, retroactively founds it, then super karates the angel unconscious with it.
    Saint Seiya Online:
    https://reborngn.com/?page=register&ref=408192
    ^-my referral

  14. #29
    Extraordinary Member Pendaran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    7,271

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Yeah but there is a huge gap between Jay and Wally, is it really accurate to say KC Supes is a speed pier of Wallys?
    When Jay can't even see KC Supes past a certain point or catch up to him at all, sure, why not?

    KC Supes barely exists, we have almost nothing to go on but primarily the things he did to other people and comparative showings and such.

  15. #30
    The Tentacle God Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Dead City of R'lyeh
    Posts
    19,605

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    When Jay can't even see KC Supes past a certain point or catch up to him at all, sure, why not?

    KC Supes barely exists, we have almost nothing to go on but primarily the things he did to other people and comparative showings and such.
    So you admit it!
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

    Arxiros "Arx" Inosaan | Inanna

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •