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    Default Homelander vs Kid Miracleman

    How would a fight between these two evil laser eyed lunatics go down?
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    What are Homelanders feats like? Anything nuke level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    What are Homelanders feats like? Anything nuke level?
    Comics wise, his only real fight, with Black Noir, was mostly offscreen and he got ripped apart.
    https://i.imgur.com/bY5m1F5.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/SIdwf65.jpg

    He IS rather strong though. Can throw a jet.
    https://i.imgur.com/3WKcEEN.jpg

    Ripped this random dude apart.
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    Has a super shout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    What are Homelanders feats like? Anything nuke level?
    Should be mentioned that if either MM or KMM were as close to the explosion as Young Miracleman, they would have died like he did, so I wouldn't use that as a standard for their durability since neither of them could take it, despite KMM being stronger than he was back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Should be mentioned that if either MM or KMM were as close to the explosion as Young Miracleman, they would have died like he did, so I wouldn't use that as a standard for their durability since neither of them could take it, despite KMM being stronger than he was back then.
    I think only MM held back and KM took the blast and in any case the difference was negligible

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dork Knight View Post
    I think only MM held back and KM took the blast and in any case the difference was negligible

    https://i.postimg.cc/bJ3Znx5m/image.jpg
    KMM left the area and only got hit by the rear of the blast, sending him flying:



    Difference wasnt negligible, MM was far enough from the blast that it gave him amnesia and damaged his superhero form to a point that it reverted him back to normal.

    Had they all been as close as YMM, they'd all would have been dead. Further supported to how messed up MM was when KMM hit him with this:



    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QOQ1SMZb8...c42/RCO018.jpg

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/mTm1KAjfq9...rRYF0ytw=s1600

    So a nuke isn't something either Homelander or KMM can take.
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    I mean KM's version of events are warped at best. MM himself at least took a fair bit of the blast as we saw

    Difference wasnt negligible, MM was far enough from the blast that it gave him amnesia and damaged his superhero form to a point that it reverted him back to normal.
    This makes no sense, tells us nothing about how close he was and the picture shown tells us they were all pretty close

    The final fight has all sorts of crazy stuff going down and it's not like an exploding vehicle put either of them down.

    I fail to see how the "phasing a pebble inside his force field" thing is relevant here since Homelander cant do that

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    I have, have you? Nothing wounded him in such a way until that point.
    "Through one eye closed...half pulverized"

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    Only thing he lied about.
    "He's telling the truth, except when he isn't"

    So he didnt lie about waking up in a hospital then?

    We know he was being honest about flying away from it as it wouldn't make sense for him to lie about that part, and his condition afterwards further supports it.
    Because KM has been all about making sense, right?

    The last scan showing him in better condition than the other two were which can only be explained by flying away from the explosion.
    Oh you mean when he said he flew away and awoke in a hospital? But there is no way he would lie twice. Just no way

    https://i.postimg.cc/7hrzYzVR/image.jpg

    Not really no, as already explained. I'll go with what we see in the story:
    To be clear your better explanation is " we can totally trust what KM says except when we cant"

    They aren't right next to each other, but okay? That is a shot from the air, the second scan clearly show's them apart.
    https://i.postimg.cc/bJ3Znx5m/image.jpg

    It's not a claim it's a fact shown by KMMs flashback(no flashback given of him being in the hospital, or without powers since those parts of the story were a lie).
    Only thing he lied about
    And no, that's not the only thing he lied about. He kept lying about....everything (such as never transforming back) until Mike pushed him off.

    https://i.postimg.cc/MHszr2vY/image.jpg
    https://i.postimg.cc/wTvqRvG4/image.jpg

    I mean for heavens sake the guy was literally using telepathy

    We see what happened right after the Nuke went off. YMM was in the epicentre, MM was outside of it but still within the explosion, while KMM got far enough that he was hit by the rear of it, but was otherwise just fine as shown in my last scan.
    Just to be clear....the scan that shows KM not waking up in hospital like he claimed?

    I'm fine with saying he could somewhat survive a direct hit but he will revert to Jimmy just like MM did, id say.
    That truck was neither as big or as heavy as that plane, nor did he smash it into MM as casually as Homelander threw the plane.
    He is one hand holding the thing and laughing in the aftermath. If anything the truck looks bigger from the art

    But in any case tossing around a jet is not even comparable to being in the "nuke tanking" range
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    "Through one eye closed...half pulverized"
    Literally has nothing to do with anything here.

    "He's telling the truth, except when he isn't"
    Except when there are other scans to support it.

    So he didnt lie about waking up in a hospital then?


    Does that look like a hospital bed to you?

    Oh you mean when he said he flew away and awoke in a hospital? But there is no way he would lie twice. Just no way
    We know he didn't lie about the former as the above scan shows.

    To be clear your better explanation is " we can totally trust what KM says except when we cant"
    scans support his claim, as well as the flashback during his explanation. The fact that you can't even address it is telling.

    And no, that's not the only thing he lied about. He kept lying about....everything (such as never transforming back) until Mike pushed him off.
    Now this is not true. His backstory of him waking in the hospital was the only thing he ever lied about, him staying in his Super form ever since the explosion was confirmed by everyone as the reason for him being more powerful. He never reverted back to his normal form until he fought MM.

    If you're referring to the time KMM allegedly raped some women after transforming into his Super form, that was one of the many in-universe comics that MM was reading and was created by someone who sent it to him, not something that actually happened:

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ySbQ-ZQiBT...GgVBknrg=s1600

    This flat out says that he remained in his super form so good job contradicting yourself?

    I mean for heavens sake the guy was literally using telepathy
    And failed miserably on a guy who just rediscovered his powers. A guy who pointed out he lied about losing his powers, yet confirmed he remained in his super form.

    Just to be clear....the scan that shows KM not waking up in hospital like he claimed?
    The scan that showed him in relatively fine condition thus supporting his claim?





    And give a better explanation than he gave as to why he is in far better condition than the others back when he was no stronger than them.
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    Cody, do not post links, even broken ones to scan hosting sites. That's a big no-no on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Cody, do not post links, even broken ones to scan hosting sites. That's a big no-no on this board.

    I suggest you edit your post before the Mods see.
    I've seen manga hosting sites posted here so I didn't figure it would be a big deal. Edited, thanks.
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