What happened with Mark Waid and Scott Lobdell?

[rockgrant]

Hey guys, hoping you can help me with something. I’m reading through the entire adjectiveless X-Men series, and I’ve reached the all-too brief Mark Waid era (issues 50-56, roughly.) I tried to find an interview or a story of what exactly happened, and the only things I could find were a reference to it being “disastrous” and Waid himself referring to it as “my and Andy’s (Kubert) abortive run on X-Men.”

Does anyone know more details about this? Or have a link to the fuller story? I can guess what happened, but I’d love to know more.

Grant

[misty101]

Something definitely went on, I spoke to Scott Lobdell once and asked him a few things and I didn't feel like he got on too well with Waid.
One of the things I asked Scott about was the weird "did Legion rape his own mother" in Legion Quest page, and he denied ever writing it and was saying it must have been Mark.

[H-E-D]

Mark Waid is a great writer when he's on his game, while Scott Lobdell is mediocre on his best days and is a known sexual harasser.

[butterflykyss]

Mark Waid is a great writer when he's on his game, while Scott Lobdell is mediocre on his best days and is a known sexual harasser.

a sexual harasser? really? what happened?

[H-E-D]

a sexual harasser? really? what happened?

https://www.comicsbeat.com/scott-lob...-to-marinaomi/
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/sexu...ndustry-again/
https://www.comicsbeat.com/scott-lob...t-allegations/

for starters.

[butterflykyss]

https://www.comicsbeat.com/scott-lob...-to-marinaomi/
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/sexu...ndustry-again/
https://www.comicsbeat.com/scott-lob...t-allegations/

for starters.

oh wow that is crazy thank you.

[rockgrant]

Something definitely went on, I spoke to Scott Lobdell once and asked him a few things and I didn't feel like he got on too well with Waid.
One of the things I asked Scott about was the weird "did Legion rape his own mother" in Legion Quest page, and he denied ever writing it and was saying it must have been Mark.

God I would love to interview Scott and/or any of the other writers (Nicieza, Kelly, Seagle, etc.) about this whole period. I always got the feeling that none of them were allowed to do much “writing,” and that Bob Harras was, for the most part, the “writer” of both books, from the departure of Jim Lee in 1992 all the way up to his termination in 2000.

But I have no references or proof of that...

[misty101]

God I would love to interview Scott and/or any of the other writers (Nicieza, Kelly, Seagle, etc.) about this whole period. I always got the feeling that none of them were allowed to do much “writing,” and that Bob Harras was, for the most part, the “writer” of both books, from the departure of Jim Lee in 1992 all the way up to his termination in 2000.

But I have no references or proof of that...

DM him on instagram, he normally will answer any questions

[Captain Buttocks]

God I would love to interview Scott and/or any of the other writers (Nicieza, Kelly, Seagle, etc.) about this whole period. I always got the feeling that none of them were allowed to do much “writing,” and that Bob Harras was, for the most part, the “writer” of both books, from the departure of Jim Lee in 1992 all the way up to his termination in 2000.

But I have no references or proof of that...

Sean Howe's book Marvel Comics : The Untold Story is chocabloc with interesting snippets from this time.