Rocksteady's Suicide Squad

[Hulkout42]

Yeah, I had a look at the death scenes. The belittling of most of the Justice League was unnecessarily mean-spirited and doesn't make the Suicide Squad anymore endearing. It's bizarre that this was green-lit. Surely they had to have known there would be backlash, in which case, is the intention actually to damage the IP?

My guess is they thought that since they were villains to begin with they could get away with that, but they failed to understand that yes, the game is called Kill the JL and yes that is what they do...but there is a right way to right a death scene and there is a wrong way to write it and they went with the wrong one for the men, especially Batman's and the Flash and the right one for WW.

[Godlike13]

Actually i think in this case the DLC's would cause more harm than good. I saw the Joker they are going with and frankly i don't see anyone caring about using him especially since the Arkham version would be more well received then this dreck they made. And lets be honest who else beside myself things the one after that is Peacemaker? Because that makes the most sense, though i hope John Cena does not lend his voice should that occur.

Joker, Victoria Fries, Zoe Lawton (Lawless), Deathstroke. Those are the first 4. Alt universe Joker is actually the biggest fish, after that its basically two originals till Deathstroke. Not sure who thought that was a good idea. Rocksteady really does have some odd decision makers. Joker and Deathstroke makes sense, popular villains, Deadshots's daughter and Mr. Freeze's wife though are just weird choices. Its like they are trying to make it hard on themselves.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Joker, Victoria Fries, Zoe Lawton (Lawless), Deathstroke. Those are the first 4. Alt universe Joker is actually the biggest fish, after that its basically two originals till Deathstroke. Not sure who thought that was a good idea. Rocksteady really does have some odd decision makers. Joker and Deathstroke makes sense, popular villains, Deadshots's daughter and Mr. Freeze's wife though are just weird choices. Its like they are trying to make it hard on themselves.

It's almost as if limiting the combat to mainly gunplay has made several possible character choices really awkward to include.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

On reddit , someone posted the PC steam numbers of players online on full release.


Its dead , folks.

[Frontier]

Not sure a JL game would have faired any better.

At least it probably seemed more daunting to produce than a loot shooter.

[Bat-Meal]

My guess is they thought that since they were villains to begin with they could get away with that, but they failed to understand that yes, the game is called Kill the JL and yes that is what they do...but there is a right way to right a death scene and there is a wrong way to write it and they went with the wrong one for the men, especially Batman's and the Flash and the right one for WW.

The Green Lantern's death wasn't great either - he got stripped to his underwear and mutilated at the same time (due to King Shark taking the ring). Still, all the mocking in the lead up to Batman's demise (if you watch the All Batman Scenes clip), spoilers:

which as it turns out was unnecessary (they didn't even have to kill him),

end of spoilers was indeed the nastiest of the bunch.

The men's deaths, for the most part, were played for laughs. If the writers were able to understand that mocking Wonder Woman would have been wrong, hence she was the only member of the JL the SS didn't kill - then they understood that mocking the others was wrong too. I suspect that whoever was in charge likely feared the backlash for WW more. I guess they underestimated how offended most of the fan base would be for the rest of the JL as well.

Joker, Victoria Fries, Zoe Lawton (Lawless), Deathstroke. Those are the first 4. Alt universe Joker is actually the biggest fish, after that its basically two originals till Deathstroke. Not sure who thought that was a good idea. Rocksteady really does have some odd decision makers. Joker and Deathstroke makes sense, popular villains, Deadshots's daughter and Mr. Freeze's wife though are just weird choices. Its like they are trying to make it hard on themselves.

I think the reasoning for the choices are actually very clear - 2 males, 2 females. And yet they didn't want to go with original female villains that already exist, but instead legacy characters linked to males counterparts. They couldn't, for example, have used Killer Frost instead of Victoria Fries?

[Godlike13]

It's almost as if limiting the combat to mainly gunplay has made several possible character choices really awkward to include.

It might not seem it but the combat is really about the traversals. And there is a melee system here. So they could for instance use Cheetah and designed her as more a melee specialist.

I think the reasoning for the choices are actually very clear - 2 males, 2 females. And yet they didn't want to go with original female villains that already exist, but instead legacy characters linked to males counterparts. They couldn't, for example, have used Killer Frost instead of Victoria Fries?

I get the 2 males, 2 females. What i don't get is why 2 original females that they have to know have little general appeal and recognizability, and why both before Deathstoke. Game desperately needs star power. At the very least they should have alternated.

[Bat-Meal]

I get the 2 males, 2 females. What i don't get is why 2 original females that they have to know have little general appeal and recognizability, and why both before Deathstoke. Game desperately needs star power. At the very least they should have alternated.

Agreed. They picked two relative nobody's. But the fact that both are legacies of more popular male characters implies to me that they wanted to use Mr.Freeze (and maybe some other male character) and were told "no". Instead of doing some research and finding a whole bunch of original female villains to choose from (with existing fan bases) they went the lazy route. Not that I think legacy characters are bad per say - but it is strange that all of the female playable characters so far are legacies of more popular male counterparts. And yet none of the male playable characters are.

[Frobisher]

Memo to stuffed suits everywhere: if a game studio knock three Batman games in a row out of the park, you let them do whatever the hell they want next. Let them make the Inception of video games.

[Derek Metaltron]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...h=24997856b76f

Good explanation of why Live Service games need to die…

[Triniking1234]

It's almost as if limiting the combat to mainly gunplay has made several possible character choices really awkward to include.

No it doesn't since I'm pretty sure finding DC villains that use guns isn't hard. However, Deadshot's daughter and Freeze's wife over people like KGBeast and Mad Dog? Rocksteady is on the rocks alright.

The Green Lantern's death wasn't great either - he got stripped to his underwear and mutilated at the same time (due to King Shark taking the ring). Still, all the mocking in the lead up to Batman's demise (if you watch the All Batman Scenes clip), spoilers:

which as it turns out was unnecessary (they didn't even have to kill him),

end of spoilers was indeed the nastiest of the bunch.

The men's deaths, for the most part, were played for laughs. If the writers were able to understand that mocking Wonder Woman would have been wrong, hence she was the only member of the JL the SS didn't kill - then they understood that mocking the others was wrong too. I suspect that whoever was in charge likely feared the backlash for WW more. I guess they underestimated how offended most of the fan base would be for the rest of the JL as well.

The writers worked on this game for years and didn't understand that killing Superman and Batman would lead to backlash?

Yeah, it's just good old misandry.

[Tuck]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...h=24997856b76f

Good explanation of why Live Service games need to die…

The only games that should be years-long service games are the ones they won't do, sports games.

God forbid they go 3-5 years without a new $70 installment of Madden or whatever FIFA is called now. Just update the rosters and save new installments for when you've actually added something meaningful to the game.

[Drako]

The only games that should be years-long service games are the ones they won't do, sports games.

God forbid they go 3-5 years without a new $70 installment of Madden or whatever FIFA is called now. Just update the rosters and save new installments for when you've actually added something meaningful to the game.

Yeah, and that will never happen. They can sell the same game to people every year, and not only that, but all of these games basically have a gacha model that people will spend even more money on.

I don't really play FIFA and have never played Madden in my life, but NBA 2K still has virtual coins that you have to use to upgrade your player, and it takes months of grinding to fully upgrade it if you don't want to spend money on VC. So that is even more cash they will get without doing anything.

[Godlike13]

They should be more concerned with games like the Day Before and now Palworld. The industry is going to take note of how a trailer could basically become a steam a best seller, or how a rudimentary survival game with cheap graphic and grade school world design that rips off Pokémon is the biggest game right now. The wave that’s going to lead to, oh boy…

[Username taken]

The only games that should be years-long service games are the ones they won't do, sports games.

God forbid they go 3-5 years without a new $70 installment of Madden or whatever FIFA is called now. Just update the rosters and save new installments for when you've actually added something meaningful to the game.

EXACTLY THIS.

EA Sports (formerly FIFA) and Madden and the likes should be live service games. These games are basically "re-skins" re-sold year after year (FIFA was particularly bad in this regard).

These games should be free to play with paid updates but they WILL NEVER do this.

FIFA in particular makes a ton almost a billion dollars with each instalment from microtransactions. It's just ridiculous.