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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    stalkery Superman Returns
    It's funny that, appropos of this thread, Lois and Cyclops were actually not bad as a couple. It subverts the trope of the hero's romantic rival being a jerk or otherwise unlikeable, but throughout the movie he's a pretty solid guy, and at one point even saving Superman himself. He's a little goofy and doesn't quite connect with Lois and Clark's kid, but it's not from lack of effort -- his heart is in the right place.

    I'll let folks to debate if either Superman or Cyclops had more chemistry with Lois, but Cyclops followed through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyke View Post
    I'll let folks to debate if either Superman or Cyclops had more chemistry with Lois, but Cyclops followed through.
    James Marsden is a stud. Too bad they didn't utilize him more in the X-Men films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentis View Post
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    Came here basically to say this lol. Gellar had the best chemistry with Boreanaz out of all her leading men. Helps that she was genuinely invested in the relationship, and it came through in her performance. By season 7, she seemed mentally checked out and I get nothing from her in the supposed romantic/shippy scenes with Marsters.

    Angel and Cordelia was also bad and awkward. Doesn't help that they turned him into kind of a dorky dumbass and her into the most boring saintly Team Mom imaginable to make it happen.

    Another couple that had bad chemistry is Jon and Danaerys. I think the writing was going to be crappy regardless, but the two of them being pretty dull together didn't help matters.
    There is of course also Padme and Anakin.

    For some good ones:
    Diana and Steve in Wonder Woman 2017
    Bruce and Selina in Batman Returns
    Angel and Darla
    Xena and Gabrielle (it's canon damnit)

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    Both best and worst, well, cause they are scripted to be the worst, yet in breaking their "code" become the best!

    Maeve Millay and Hector Escaton in all their incarnations. Yeah it was mostly physical, but chemistry they were on fire, literally!

    I'd watch movies of all their sensational over-the-top narrative loops, as:

    West World: Maeve and Hector

    Shōgun World: Akane and Musashi

    War World: Isabella and Ettore
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    Came here basically to say this lol. Gellar had the best chemistry with Boreanaz out of all her leading men. Helps that she was genuinely invested in the relationship, and it came through in her performance. By season 7, she seemed mentally checked out and I get nothing from her in the supposed romantic/shippy scenes with Marsters.

    Angel and Cordelia was also bad and awkward. Doesn't help that they turned him into kind of a dorky dumbass and her into the most boring saintly Team Mom imaginable to make it happen.

    Another couple that had bad chemistry is Jon and Danaerys. I think the writing was going to be crappy regardless, but the two of them being pretty dull together didn't help matters.
    There is of course also Padme and Anakin.

    For some good ones:
    Diana and Steve in Wonder Woman 2017
    Bruce and Selina in Batman Returns
    Angel and Darla
    Xena and Gabrielle (it's canon damnit)

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    Bruce and Selina from The Dark Knight Rises had great chemistry.

    I will never understand the hate shown to Christian Bale and Anna Hataway.

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    Batman and Robin had pretty good chemistry in the 1960s Batman show.

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    stalkery Superman Returns
    There's this one guy I know who is just obsessed with Leia Thompson because of that movie and he loves that one scene. Dude is a little weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboy View Post
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    Things like this make it difficult to take fan opinions of chemistry seriously.

    Candice Patton: The chemistry was immediate.

    Grant Gustin: I don't even remember any of the other Iris auditions. She was it.

    I remember back when "Sky High" was done and people said Kurt Russell and Kelly Preston had no chemistry and Russell clearly hated his role. A decade later, he was asked about his favorite movies and he listed Sky High as one of them and working with Preston as a big reason.

    So I tend to be skeptical when people say two people have no chemistry, etc. They tend to be projecting their dislike of two characters being together.

    Iris does the same thing everybody else does on the Flash. She gives pep speeches and finds solutions just like Joe and everybody else does, often solutions that are not needed because, without plot-induced stupidity, Barry would just blitz the problem. She and Barry constantly have issues like all other CW romances because that's the nature of all the writing.
    Yep the West Allen pair sucks. Barry and literally almost any other female character has better chemistry between them.

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    TBH, when almost anyone talks about "chemistry" I take it with tons of grains of salt. It's almost always a totally subjective thing that people see through tinted glasses.

    For me, it totally made sense when Sam and Diane split, because I could never for a second see them together. I can't for the life of me see Diane as having good chemistry with anyone on Earth. They acted well against one another, but it was not due to any good chemistry. Xena (Lucy Lawless) seemed to have synergy with almost everyone, but I still don't see her and Gabrielle until it became forced.

    And I totally get the synergy between Barry and Iris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxton View Post
    Yep the West Allen pair sucks. Barry and literally almost any other female character has better chemistry between them.
    I did like Barry and that other crime tech lady...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyriVerse View Post
    TBH, when almost anyone talks about "chemistry" I take it with tons of grains of salt. It's almost always a totally subjective thing that people see through tinted glasses.

    For me, it totally made sense when Sam and Diane split, because I could never for a second see them together. I can't for the life of me see Diane as having good chemistry with anyone on Earth. They acted well against one another, but it was not due to any good chemistry. Xena (Lucy Lawless) seemed to have synergy with almost everyone, but I still don't see her and Gabrielle until it became forced.

    And I totally get the synergy between Barry and Iris.
    That was my point with the Kurt Russell example. People said it was obvious he hated the movie and the actress he worked with as his wife. Then, years later, in an interview that had nothing to do with that movie. Sky High, he was asked to list his favorite movies he's done and he lists that in the top three and specifically mentions the actress as a reason for it. That would be the actress that it was "obvious" he had no chemistry with. People project their own dislikes. In the case of the CW, they are describing the steps of almost every romantic relationship.

    I was and am a huge Xena fan. From various interviews, I know that the Xena/ Gabrielle relationship was not planned. But they kept getting emails during the first season from people who were reading a romantic/ sexual relationship into their friendship. In the middle of a mass fight, if Xena took a moment to take out Gabbie's opponent when Gabbie didn't really need the help, it was obviously a romantic interest when it was just meant to show that Xena was underestimating Gabbie. When the show runners began to realize this interpretation was getting to be a significant portion of the audience and that there was a whole sub-culture they could draw to the show, they went to Lucy Lawless and Renee O'Connor and asked them if they would be okay playing it as romantic and they both said they were good with it as long as it didn't get too blatantly physical. Then they started intentionally writing it as romantic and a legend was born.
    Power with Girl is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Think Rowling has said she gets where people come from, but has stayed with her version.
    Quote Originally Posted by Powerboy View Post
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    Things like this make it difficult to take fan opinions of chemistry seriously.

    Candice Patton: The chemistry was immediate.

    Grant Gustin: I don't even remember any of the other Iris auditions. She was it.

    I remember back when "Sky High" was done and people said Kurt Russell and Kelly Preston had no chemistry and Russell clearly hated his role. A decade later, he was asked about his favorite movies and he listed Sky High as one of them and working with Preston as a big reason.

    So I tend to be skeptical when people say two people have no chemistry, etc. They tend to be projecting their dislike of two characters being together.

    Iris does the same thing everybody else does on the Flash. She gives pep speeches and finds solutions just like Joe and everybody else does, often solutions that are not needed because, without plot-induced stupidity, Barry would just blitz the problem. She and Barry constantly have issues like all other CW romances because that's the nature of all the writing.
    I think here there are two kinds of chemistry. There is the chemistry between the actors, where they can play off one another and genuinely like working together. And there is romantic chemistry that the audience can see, that maybe wasn't really there in the script but it is present throughout their scenes.

    For example- Kara and Lena on Supergirl. From their first scenes together, you could see a chemistry between them that launched a thousand explicit fan fics. Hell, Melissa had better romantic chemistry on screen with Katie McGrath than she did with Chris Wood, and she married him in real life! It was so obvious, and the fans started actually wanting the two to get together, that TPTB have done everything they can think of to not make it happen. From pairing Lena with James, to pairing Kara with.... whatshisname, the British journalist who no one cares about.

    Another seemingly unpopular opinion that fits into this category- Stephen Amell had no romantic chemistry with Katie Cassidy. I never bought them as a romantic couple on the show for the short time they were one. I did buy them as really good friends on screen. And off screen, Stephen seems to have gotten along great with Katie, and they seem to have enjoyed working together. Then there is Emily Bett-Rickards, who he had insane romantic chemistry from the first meeting, AND who he gets along with great behind the scenes.

    Willa Holland and Colton Haynes also had insane on-screen romantic chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    Another seemingly unpopular opinion that fits into this category- Stephen Amell had no romantic chemistry with Katie Cassidy. I never bought them as a romantic couple on the show for the short time they were one. I did buy them as really good friends on screen. And off screen, Stephen seems to have gotten along great with Katie, and they seem to have enjoyed working together. Then there is Emily Bett-Rickards, who he had insane romantic chemistry from the first meeting, AND who he gets along with great behind the scenes.
    To this day I still believe Stephen had better comedic chemistry with Emily than he did romantic chemistry, especially compared to when they paired him and Caity Lotz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Think Rowling has said she gets where people come from, but has stayed with her version.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To this day I still believe Stephen had better comedic chemistry with Emily than he did romantic chemistry, especially compared to when they paired him and Caity Lotz.
    Him and Caity did have really good romantic chemistry, and I like how that became a really strong friendship whenever they got to share the screen together later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To this day I still believe Stephen had better comedic chemistry with Emily than he did romantic chemistry, especially compared to when they paired him and Caity Lotz.
    This almost makes me want to crack a joke about “Best Chemistry in a CW show = The Red Herring Pairing The Producers Don’t Want as Endgame” and “Worst Chemistry in a CW show = The One True Pairing the Producers Will Inevitably Screw Up.”

    Seriously; there was a while there where it seemed like the writers for Flash and Arrow were so bad at executing the kind of soap opera style romance they wanted for their demographic that it was the kiss of death for characters and romance they started out with, and yet they seemed able to handle the “incorrect” romance options pretty well. I understand they got a lot better, but it was almost hilarious how much better they got at writing Laurel/Black Siren when they finally moved past her as Oliver’s love interest, and how much worse they got at writing Felicity once they promoted her to main love interest.

    And there is something absolutely hilarious/depressing about how they a managed to make both Tommy Merlyn and Eddie Thawne actually enjoyable character around the hero’s designated love interest, but only because they wanted to kill them off at the end fot he season for pathos.
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    "Sons of Anarchy" - Jax and his girlfriend Dr Tara. Considering how important that relationship was to the show, I just never really felt like they were this passionate couple who loved each other no matter the crazy obstacles thrown in their way.

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