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    Default Jon fans, do you dread him being characterized like his old man?

    When I say his old man I'm talking about specifically about Post-Crisis Superman.
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    As far as I'm concerned Jon died some time after Super Sons ongoing ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    As far as I'm concerned Jon died some time after Super Sons ongoing ended.
    Pretty much. Jon died up in space after his parents carelessly left him in the care of a man they barely knew. So I guess we don't have to worry about him turning into a Clark clone. Thanks to Clark and Lois' negligence, he never got the chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    What are lois's defining characteristics ? If sassiness and jumping into things over his head are what you want. I mean, this is what happened in his first day out.
    Agreed. There may have been times where I wish he showed it more but he was definitely just as much Lois' son as he was Clark's.
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    I just want him to have something cause the discount OC super teen protagonist shtick he's got goin on now ain't it cause it's not Jon caisd he's being written by a hack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    As far as I'm concerned Jon died some time after Super Sons ongoing ended.
    this is such a mood

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    This is a real problem when it comes to Jon, Kara and Conner. Easy to fall into that trap. Makes it all the more important to emphasize the traits that set them apart from Clark. Be it their backgrounds, personalities, and power sets. Injecting a little more Lois into the boy would help a lot. Also I don’t think Jon ever should have developed the ability to fly. I’m kinda ok with Conner not being able to fly either.

    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    As far as I'm concerned Jon died some time after Super Sons ongoing ended.
    Yeah, basically this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpaqueGiraffe17 View Post
    This is a real problem when it comes to Jon, Kara and Conner. Easy to fall into that trap. Makes it all the more important to emphasize the traits that set them apart from Clark. Be it their backgrounds, personalities, and power sets. Injecting a little more Lois into the boy would help a lot. Also I don’t think Jon ever should have developed the ability to fly. I’m kinda ok with Conner not being able to fly either.



    Yeah, basically this.
    Kara going into journalism and Kon going to Smallville High was so dumb for both characters, and I say that as someone who liked Lemire’s Superboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Kara going into journalism and Kon going to Smallville High was so dumb for both characters, and I say that as someone who liked Lemire’s Superboy.
    Actually, I think Conner at Smallville High actually helped distinguish him from Superman in some cool ways. Clark grew up in Smallville, but left it behind for a faster paced life in Metropolis. Conner started his life obsessed with the attention and action of the rest of the world, but came to love the slow pace of Smallville and view it as a home for himself. He discovered a zen and a piece of mind there that he couldn't of imagined perviously, and it seemed like that discovery was how he'd forge path independent of Clark and Lex, as both of them left Smallville behind. I'm not sure Lemire's Conner would ever want to.
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    I think Kon the celebrity did the differentiation to Superman better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Actually, I think Conner at Smallville High actually helped distinguish him from Superman in some cool ways. Clark grew up in Smallville, but left it behind for a faster paced life in Metropolis. Conner started his life obsessed with the attention and action of the rest of the world, but came to love the slow pace of Smallville and view it as a home for himself. He discovered a zen and a piece of mind there that he couldn't of imagined perviously, and it seemed like that discovery was how he'd forge path independent of Clark and Lex, as both of them left Smallville behind. I'm not sure Lemire's Conner would ever want to.
    If the writers actually had Clark leave Smallville behind maybe I would agree, but Clark is frequently shown to pine over his farming roots. Now I like that Clark is a son of farmers, I love that poor working class origin for him. But it never felt right for Kon. He was envisioned as a way to explore the celebrity of being a superhero, and moving him so far away from that felt like a misstep. Kon should be the one who is in the spotlight 24/7 imo, and how he lives with that is what differentiates him from Clark who keeps his personal and hero lives separate.

    But that’s just my take.

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    Hell, yeah! I do. I want the kid to have the personality that is more sunnier, quirkier, energetic,mischievous, have a bit of Superdickery ... Etc. I want the kid to even have the capacity to bully back the likes of damian wayne. The kid wasn't about the whole farmboy "yes, pa!yes, ma!" nonsense. I would also prefer the kid actually falling on his face with his unstable abilities again and again to get under control.i liked that jon liked to keep the image of goody twoshoes kid in front of his parents, when in fact the kid was upto mischief and breaking rules made by his parents. He seems to really love mischievous adventuring, having fun and ofcourse helping people as chivalry would dicto. Clark on the other hand is more about doing good itself and adventure is just a side effect of that.To put it simply, if clark is into "to kill a mockingbird" then jon would be into zorro, animes, jedis and ninjas.etc.


    Also, give the kid the superman sword.
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    No not really, it makes sense to me that he is like his father. His father is literally one of the most inspiring superheroes in the dc universe, who raised him as a father and trained him as a hero, so it makes sense that Jon is going to pick up on some of his characteristics and mannerisms. How do you think a person would turn out if they were raised by Superman for 10 to 11 years, they would be a smaller Superman. Besides it’s not as if it’s just Bendis’ writing, other writers write him the same way even in an elseworld like DCeased.

    But to me personality isn’t the same as character, yes Jon acts like his dad but he’s different because of his own history, friends, and the era he grew up.
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    Jon having similarities to his dad? Sure. Jon being his dad's clone? Hell no. And that's my issue with Bendis' version of him.

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    Yes. Even before Bendis I was unsatisfied with how Jon was being characterized. There wasn’t enough of Lois’ traits in him and he acted far too much like a Clark Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Yes. Even before Bendis I was unsatisfied with how Jon was being characterized. There wasn’t enough of Lois’ traits in him and he acted far too much like a Clark Jr.
    What are lois's defining characteristics ? If sassiness and jumping into things over his head are what you want. I mean, this is what happened in his first day out.

    I think, The kid has more than enough of that. Only, the physical feature are clarks. Although, jon having purple tint to his eyes wouldn't be bad. As for hair and other design elements jorge jimenez's design is still the best and should be left as is.The guy understands the kid in a way no others does.

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