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    Quote Originally Posted by witchboy View Post
    In the sixties we are told in a letter's column that Betty was a little younger than Peter but had to drop out of school to work.
    I kinda always viewed it as Betty was depicted a young woman, while Pete, still an insecure teenager, but nevertheless a boy kid.

    And when Ned Leeds started to creep in, Pete witnessing the sight of Betty "seeing" someone more cultured and closer to her age, further insecuring him up, and eventually coming to terms, that he was just a boy, playing boyfriend to a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    It didn't. The twins still exist, so Marvel is just doing what it did for a long while with One More Day --- refuse to acknowledge it in hopes the fans will eventually forget about it.
    Get them married again, and all will be forgiven / forgotten by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSlingWonder View Post
    I don't think Blue was saying they had sex; I always took it as, "Oh, she caught him unaware and just made out." Maybe that's naive of me, but I never got the overt impression that Gwen would have done that with Peter. And whether it's in canon...yes? And no? Obviously, the events are jumbled in Peter's memory, so it could go either way.
    The way Gwen looked, she was either being a colossal ******* of a tease to Peter or she was ready for sex. A woman just doesn't arrange something like that unless they are taking the next step in the relationship - or unless they have psychological issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    The way Gwen looked, she was either being a colossal ******* of a tease to Peter or she was ready for sex. A woman just doesn't arrange something like that unless they are taking the next step in the relationship - or unless they have psychological issues.
    I honestly still think it could go either way. It's left ambiguous enough that you can say that they had sex and it's just enough to say, maybe they just kissed. The line "all of me" does lean more into the former, but it could also mean something else. Either way, because of the story's ambiguity regarding canon and that "Sins Past" is (unfortunately) canon, then I'm going with they never had sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebSlingWonder View Post
    I honestly still think it could go either way. It's left ambiguous enough that you can say that they had sex and it's just enough to say, maybe they just kissed. The line "all of me" does lean more into the former, but it could also mean something else. Either way, because of the story's ambiguity regarding canon and that "Sins Past" is (unfortunately) canon, then I'm going with they never had sex.
    I see a small gray area where sometimes people are young and stupid that allows me to agree with the possibility that they didn't have sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    The way Gwen looked, she was either being a colossal ******* of a tease to Peter or she was ready for sex. A woman just doesn't arrange something like that unless they are taking the next step in the relationship - or unless they have psychological issues.
    Well, Gwen of that era had her moments .

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    There's a lot of middle ground between "they just kissed" and "they had intercourse"
    That they had a non intercourse sexual encounter stays true to both Blue and Sins Past I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchboy View Post
    There's a lot of middle ground between "they just kissed" and "they had intercourse"
    That they had a non intercourse sexual encounter stays true to both Blue and Sins Past I think.
    I can agree with that; which is why I was saying that maybe they made out.

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    Is Blue even canon. I never got the impression that it was.
    Mary Jane didn't even meet Peter with a dress on.
    She was wearing pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrius View Post
    Is Blue even canon. I never got the impression that it was.
    Mary Jane didn't even meet Peter with a dress on.
    She was wearing pants.
    I love this take .

    That being said...Tim Sale drawing MJ in that dress for the "Face it Tiger..." moment .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrius View Post
    Is Blue even canon. I never got the impression that it was.
    Mary Jane didn't even meet Peter with a dress on.
    She was wearing pants.
    None of the Loeb/Sale Marvel Color books are canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrius View Post
    Is Blue even canon. I never got the impression that it was.
    Mary Jane didn't even meet Peter with a dress on.
    She was wearing pants.
    Yes but was Peter wearing pants? How about Aunt May?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    The way Gwen looked, she was either being a colossal ******* of a tease to Peter or she was ready for sex. A woman just doesn't arrange something like that unless they are taking the next step in the relationship - or unless they have psychological issues.
    Creepy rapey comment aside, it's pretty clear that they slept together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoomanjoe View Post
    Creepy rapey comment aside, it's pretty clear that they slept together.

    That book isn't canon.

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    I say Mj but how many women has Peter been thru though?
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