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    Considering people even in this thread are ripping on it, I guess Dark Phoenix for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle View Post
    Considering people even in this thread are ripping on it, I guess Dark Phoenix for me.
    I definitely thought it got such a weird amount of hate. I saw it a month or 2 after it came out and I enjoyed bits of it, and as usual enjoyed Fassbender and McAvoy.

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    I can watch Daredevil, I just go get a beer in a couple of atrocious scenes. I can also watch X-Men 3, I especially liked Kelsey Grammer as Beast but Halle Berry in that movie is just phoning it in, she isn't even trying anymore. And there are too many damn plots going on. But I can watch it. It is also somewhat redeemed by the DOFP film. In fact, my X-men head cannon is First Class, X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men 3, DOFP, Logan, in that order. None of the other films exist to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tg1982 View Post
    I actually agree with you about the 2005 movie. I only consider it “bad” due to low scores from critics and review sites such as Rotten Tomatoes. I actually think it’s good.
    I wouldn't go that far. It's a bad movie in most respects. It's just that Evans and Chiklis are good in it, so much so that they carry the movie into enjoyability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tg1982 View Post
    I agree, Evans was really good as Johnny Storm, but I was really impressed with Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm. Honestly I think the movie wasn’t as bad as the ratings give it. It wasn’t great, but I don’t think it was terrible either. And a lot of it had to do with the cast. IMO
    I completely agree here. I loved Chiklis as the Thing, and Chris Evans did a great Torch! Ioan Gruffudd was also a very good casting choice, although the character was played more sympathetic and less arrogant than in the comics The only casting that I didn't like much was of Jessica Alba, but I'm still guilty of loving these movies

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    When Marvel films are bad or just poor, there are usually no saving aspects of the movie. Dark Phoenix, Avengers: Age of Ultron, Iron Man 3, GOTG 2 or Thor 2 fits this description of bad with no saving aspects.

    However I will say X-Men 3 is my favourite ''bad'' Marvel film because there were some saving aspects.

    Kelsey Grammer as Beast

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    And usually any Hugh Jackman and Ian Mckellen performance as Wolverine and Magneto is worth a watch.
    Kelsey Grammer as Beast was pure genius IMO! I loved the movie almost just because of him

    But the movie that everybody seems to hate and that is one of my favorite MCU movies is The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton. I don't mind at all that people don't like it, but I just don't really understand.
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    Howard the Duck I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Jay View Post
    I completely agree here. I loved Chiklis as the Thing, and Chris Evans did a great Torch! Ioan Gruffudd was also a very good casting choice, although the character was played more sympathetic and less arrogant than in the comics The only casting that I didn't like much was of Jessica Alba, but I'm still guilty of loving these movies
    I’ve notice that a lot of people didn’t seem to like Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. Mind if I ask why?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Jay View Post
    Kelsey Grammer as Beast was pure genius IMO! I loved the movie almost just because of him
    I completely agree with you. I’ve always loved Kelsey Grammer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Jay View Post
    But the movie that everybody seems to hate and that is one of my favorite MCU movies is The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton. I don't mind at all that people don't like it, but I just don't really understand.
    I always forget that Norton’s Hulk is part of the MCU. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Jay View Post
    But the movie that everybody seems to hate and that is one of my favorite MCU movies is The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton. I don't mind at all that people don't like it, but I just don't really understand.
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    I always forget that Norton’s Hulk is part of the MCU. Lol
    I think people decide to "hate" it because it suffers Banner recast syndrome. That makes the carryover from Eric Bana Hulk seem like fair hate. That film was really uneven.
    However, the Norton Hulk film has the same bones and structure of other early MCU films that most like or love. Had the film had a proper sequel with Norton most would look differently upon it now.
    It really is an enjoyable film and I rewatch it myself on occassion.
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    This was a hard one because I don't out-right hate anything but...

    I like X-Men: Apocalypse even though it goes to crap after "Angel" shows up and "super crap" after they kill off Havok.

    I like the 1st FOX Fantastic Four movie but Silver Surfer and the last one were crap.

    Never saw those Nic Cage Ghost Rider movies.
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    I got a few I'm fine with. Mostly Spider-man 3 being not nearly as bad as people made it out to be at the time and to some degree still do. Like it's clearly not as good as the other two but the Rami films are pretty solid. ASM2 I'd consider a genuine betrayal but SM3? I got and still get a lot of enjoyment out of that one despite how goofy it is.

    The Amazing Spider-man is also a film I enjoy despite what others have said about it and while I do have some issues with it, I was onboard with it until 2 came in and screwed everything up.

    The first Nic Cage Ghost Rider is a lot of fun. Not really a good Ghost Rider film but it is a halfway decent intro to the character and I honestly think Nic Cage was a good choice looking at it like that. For someone's intro to Ghost Rider it's not the worst way to meet him.

    I'm also pretty partial to the directors cut of Daredevil. TBH I thought it was fine but being that I like Daredevil but not a massive fan of the character I could be missing something here. I think the train bit was a little much but for what it was I did like it.
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    Dare Devil (2003) and Elektra (2005) loved those 2000 films.
    Barely any internet in our region way back then.
    So didn't know that people actually disliked the films and they had low ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tg1982 View Post
    I’ve notice that a lot of people didn’t seem to like Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. Mind if I ask why?


    I completely agree with you. I’ve always loved Kelsey Grammer.

    I always forget that Norton’s Hulk is part of the MCU. Lol
    Though I wouldn't say Jessica did a bad job per say, I had a tough time seeing her as Sue Richards instead of Jessica Alba. It felt more like Jessica Alba joined the Fantastic Four than anything else. And I had the same problem with Ben Afflicks Daredevil back in the day.

    I didn't have that issue with say Robert Downy Jr, who just became Tony Stark in my mind as I watched the film. But it still felt like I was watching Jessica Alba the entire time. Maybe that's just me.

    Again, not dissing the movie overall... it wasn't great, but I had fun with it.

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    punisher war zone. bring Lexi Alexander back for a Marvel TV series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    I think people decide to "hate" it because it suffers Banner recast syndrome. That makes the carryover from Eric Bana Hulk seem like fair hate. That film was really uneven.
    However, the Norton Hulk film has the same bones and structure of other early MCU films that most like or love. Had the film had a proper sequel with Norton most would look differently upon it now.
    It really is an enjoyable film and I rewatch it myself on occassion.
    I actually liked the Norton Hulk movie. Although I do sort of agree with you about the recast issue. I think the connection is somewhat lost due to the recasting for a third time to Ruffalo. If either Norton went into Avengers, or Ruffalo was cast in the Hulk movie, the connection would be easier to make. That’s just my opinion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XPac View Post
    Though I wouldn't say Jessica did a bad job per say, I had a tough time seeing her as Sue Richards instead of Jessica Alba. It felt more like Jessica Alba joined the Fantastic Four than anything else. And I had the same problem with Ben Afflicks Daredevil back in the day.

    I didn't have that issue with say Robert Downy Jr, who just became Tony Stark in my mind as I watched the film. But it still felt like I was watching Jessica Alba the entire time. Maybe that's just me.

    Again, not dissing the movie overall... it wasn't great, but I had fun with it.
    I understand. I wasn’t super into the Fantastic Four comics, so it might have been easier for me or someone under similar circumstances not see the contrasts of the casting. But I was in the same boat with you concerning Daredevil, it was Affleck with red hair and sunglasses, not Matt Murdock.

    I will say that the majority of the MCU casting (perhaps all casting) was almost perfect. At least concerning the MCU founding Avengers.
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