That trailer was amazing. I really think this could top The Dark Knight as my favorite Batman movie.
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Always told I am always in a minority anyway especially when it comes to comic book movies lol, as I try to be as objective as possible and say things from a pure film making opinion , putting away my personal love for a series.
Yes, I think this will still be the winning card that Reeves is a good director and all his movies do land on good to great feet. Trailers many times than none has never determined how good the film will turn out, so right now, I am banking on the quality of the film not from this one trailer that I did find quite disappointing but on Matt Reeves impressive filmography
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-It look.....okay. It has just about everything you would expect from a Batman movie and some of those shots are beautiful. I'll check it out.
-Why do I get the feeling Collin Farell's Penguin is going to be the fan favorite of this?
-I hope we get some actual detective work and not just Bruce gritting his teeth and beating people up because he can't control his emotions.
Looks like a mix between Nolan and Fincher. With better fight choreography than the latter.
I'm generally so over that approach to Batman, but this at least looks like a very good execution of similar ideas. If the film series starts to branch out into the more outlandish elements of Batman's world, I'd be more on board with things starting out this way.
Pattinson already looks way better than Bale and Affleck, and I'm really digging Kravitz.
One the shitty/overrated installments of the source material.
I echo John Venus. Batman has a brain, I want to see him use it. Which, to be fair, the trailers have to be action heavy, so there may be plenty of such scenes that weren't put in this.
It was just a quippy joke because most of the times the books ignore the detective work and just focuses on "Bruce gritting his teeth and beating people up because he can't control his emotions."
I agree - it is stupid hard to make an exciting trailer focused on detective work, so I wouldn't hold that against these trailers.
I know some fans keep bringing up wanting the outlandish stuff, but I'm fine not seeing it here honestly - that kind of stuff works so much better and more easily in the videogames and animated features and series, and is usually so front and center in those anyways, that the films taking the opposite approach are honestly fine with me. If this existed in a vacuum it might bug me, but frankly I don't need to see Batman take out Clayface with ninja moves and super gadgets in live action when videogame clips and cartoons deliver it just as well as any movie ever could.
The first trailer was a bit better, though this one did an excellent job hitting the visuals, and selling me on the action, Catwoman, and Penguin.
My only worry personally is how well a seemingly-stereotypically “grittied” Riddler comes off in the film - right now, while he comes off as a good archetypal thriller serial killer, it’s still an archetypal thriller serial killer. It’s the same general feel that, say, Key and Peele made fun of on their show.
And I know it’s been the general intuitive leap most people have been trying to take Riddler when trying to improve him - whether in Earth One, War of Jokes and Riddles, or Telltale Batman. I feel like ever since BTAS, the answer has been a more put-together, somewhat dignified, and almost genuinely charming Riddler, but no one wants to follow through on that.
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I dunno, it seems more toned down but there's some failry outlandish stuff like the scene with the Batmobile diving through the fire or how the characters moves still feel like the comics. The Bat-Signal is in there. Even Riddler is still called "Riddler."
I mean, he had a question mark in his coffee cup when the police nab him. That's pretty on-brand for Riddler .
Oh, I have zero problem with the branding. If anything, Riddler should be the guy who makes a member out of his symbol in every incarnation.
I just fear (though not terribly) that the characterization will be very “exactly the kind of whisper-heavy, clearly disturbed portrayal you’d expect for Zodiac Knockoff #4523” type of characterization.
I have a lot of confidence in the director and actor to pull it off regardless. I just personally think everyone - movies, comics, Etc. - keeps grinding up a character who really should be more “Classy Moriarty” type as a villain.
Like action, adventure, rogues, and outlaws? Like anti-heroes, femme fatales, mysteries and thrillers?
I wrote a book with them. Outlaw’s Shadow: A Sherwood Noir. Robin Hood’s evil counterpart, Guy of Gisbourne, is the main character. Feel free to give it a look: https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asi...E2PKBNJFH76GQP
He looks fine to me.
BTW 35 yr old Robert Pattinson is 6'1, and so he is very close to the 6'2 comic book Batman which I think was based off Adam West's Batman who is 6'2
The shortest Batman is Michael Keason who is 5'9.
followed by George Clooney at 5'11
Christopher Bale and Val Kilmer both at 6'0
the tallest Batman is Ben Affleck at 6'4
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I love this take on Riddler.
Zoe Kravitz looks perfect as Selina at least visually.
I still have to remind myself that that’s Colin Farrell as Penguin. He really does look and sound unrecognizable.