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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    Well for one, he's shown the ability to respect the characters without being fanboy-ish about it. I have faith that we will see a Bishop and that he won't be a one off, or a wallflower. We should get a X-Men team/movie that is balanced. We don't need a "Wolverine" and the X-Men, or "Cyclops" and the X-Men. Its an ensemble cast, they all are important. I loved how there were no real romance plots just because a woman is present on the team. We should get stories that build them all up.
    How would you handle Bishop in the MCU? Still a time traveler or nah? Because IMO that impacts how soon they bring him in. If they change his origin or just ignore the fact that he’s from a dystopian future, then I could see them bringing him in sooner. If not, that will require more setup and probably means he’s not coming for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castle View Post
    Great Question.

    I presume Super X-Men fans are more easy to upset when it comes to the universe. they are very protective. 90% of xmen fans became fans of xmen from reading the comics, not watching the movies. Super-Avengers fans or MCU fans, a lot of them became fans from watching thee movies. Spiderman fans are quite similar to X-men fans because marvel only had xmen and Spiderman as their A-list heroes that were rivalling Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

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    Spiderman Into the Spiderverse grossed 390 million dollars

    Spiderman Far from home grossed 1.1 billion dollars

    Spiderverse is the superior film. Money is a weak consultation price to making mediocre movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dboi2001 View Post
    Again all that is great but none of that means they are good or well written or that he’s a good fit for the x men. Mcu movies rarely go into social commentary. Maybe they can capture the more adventurous X Men stories but I don’t see them pulling off the deeper aspects
    Oh so we're just going to ignore all of the social commentary in MCU movies because you don't like the MCU. Got it.

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    Kevin Feige isn't off his **** on coke prescribed painkillers (applies to al X-directors), and generally doesn't give jobs to directors who hire actors based on Instagram fan following or how much they wants to sleep with them.

    X2 and Logan were blips, not the norm for Fox movies. Fox was a complete mess and any good blockbuster movies that came out of that studio were good by accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    Wolverine in a beater and jeans, no colorful costume for the kiddies, and under the FOX banner which mismanaged the character’s first solo horribly. Also, Logan wasn’t a comedy and thus didn’t have the broader appeal of Deadpool. But it was a better movie. By a long shot. But all of that is moot...

    ... a Wolverine who is fully integrated into the MCU with his spandex on? Yeah, he’s gonna be a big deal. Sorry, man. But he is. Hate on it all you want. But it’s still coming. He is... inevitable, as Thanos would put it. Ha.
    If all you need is colourful costumes, good studio banner, comedy and broader appeal... then what even is character popularity anymore?

    I never said I don't expect to see Wolverine to show up in MCU. But I do have a problem with this supposed popularity argument that just doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foon4000 View Post
    Kevin Feige [snip] and generally doesn't give jobs to directors who hire actors based on Instagram fan following or how much they wants to sleep with them.
    And yet, the director of Iron Man ends up on-screen dating Spider-Man's aunt!

    Lucky bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    If all you need is colourful costumes, good studio banner, comedy and broader appeal... then what even is character popularity anymore?

    I never said I don't expect to see Wolverine to show up in MCU. But I do have a problem with this supposed popularity argument that just doesn't work.
    Most of the lesser known characters you listed got their box office numbers because they were part of that banner... even Spider-man didn't reach a billion til he was part of the MCU brand... you're making a really strange argument here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Who gets to decide the lows? Fox had had lows. MCU has destroyed any goodwill that comic films are pure cinema.

    Its better to have low movies than to be seen as nothing more but a Merchandise
    Who decides the highs lol? I promise you, comic book movies have never been seen as "pure cinema" by the general public - not since Tim Burton's Batman at the very least. Scorsese and Coppola didn't have phone calls gushing over the ending of X2 lmao. Even Joker which is the most "hmm yes pure kino" comic book film didn't register with Scorsese, who said he couldn't direct something where the main character turns into a comic book character. Outside of Joker the only outlier has been Dark Knight. These FOX films are not generally regarded as "art". Seriously, I like those movies. But art they aren't (I'm not saying the MCU is eother btw).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack The Tripper View Post
    Most of the lesser known characters you listed got their box office numbers because they were part of that banner... even Spider-man didn't reach a billion til he was part of the MCU brand... you're making a really strange argument here lol
    It may not have reached a billion dollars, but Sam Raimi's Spider-Man movies were literally the top dogs of box office of their time. And as I said, they never made less than $700 M. For comparison, only one X-Men movie(discounting Deadpool) has made over $700 M, that was Days of Future Past/

    I'm making the argument that people need to stop throwing popularity argument when it comes to movie Wolverine. It was never the top contender even at his peak, and far lesser popular characters have consistently made more which is a proof that they were not flukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    How would you handle Bishop in the MCU? Still a time traveler or nah? Because IMO that impacts how soon they bring him in. If they change his origin or just ignore the fact that he’s from a dystopian future, then I could see them bringing him in sooner. If not, that will require more setup and probably means he’s not coming for awhile.
    Kill the whole time traveler aspect, and start him out ground zero in the present. He could be a former soldier who upon manifestation of his mutant abilities decided to take another path by way of the X-Men. Keep all the alpha male macho, and he could be a mutant built up as trainer/ combat specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post

    For all these popularity talks, Wolverine really hasn't broke in the movies as some like to pretend.

    Do we really want to talk about popularity?
    Logan out grossed every main Xmen movie except DoFP. I mean all you have done is bash Fox inability to sell the X-men franchise. Venom has outgrossed every single Xmen movie by your logic the X-men franchise isn't popular either.

    We all know what the real issue is here I mean except you obviously

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    Logan was also rated R which meant less audience, and is the 6th highest grossing R rated movie, making £600 million worldwide which I would say is pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaydnC95 View Post
    Logan was also rated R which meant less audience, and is the 6th highest grossing R rated movie, making £600 million worldwide which I would say is pretty good.
    Why do X-Men fans hates Feige and the MCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee911 View Post
    Logan out grossed every main Xmen movie except DoFP.
    Seeing that most X-Men movies are 'Wolverine and Friends', so he basically beat himself?
    I mean all you have done is bash Fox inability to sell the X-men franchise.
    Yes?
    Venom has outgrossed every single Xmen movie by your logic the X-men franchise isn't popular either.
    X-Men movie franchise really isn't.
    We all know what the real issue is here I mean except you obviously
    That the so called popularity is irrelevant as long as you make a movie that appeals to the audience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankyspaceout View Post
    Why do X-Men fans hates Feige and the MCU.
    I.... literally never said anything of the sort?

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