Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 64

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    Default Dumb Marvel Villains and Dumb Evil Plans

    In catching up to my Hulk history I FINALLY took it upon myself to red Defenders comics and start from the start with Marvel Feature 01-03, I can name a few villains from these stories (I'm up to issue 18 of volume 1 of Defenders) that came up with some boneheaded ideas.

    Everyone in the Marvel Feature Series:
    *Issue 01: Evil doctor is dying, decided to build a giant computer using both science and magic to destroy the world, and brag to Doc Strange about it on his deathbed.
    *Issue 02: Evil alien that can turn to cloud hypnotizes two astronauts to start their own children TV show with terrible writing to allure children to ride a rocket to a new planet instead of the destroyed home planet of Xemnu to repopulate a new planet for himself by letting human children reproduce and destroying Earth.
    *Issue 03: Evil crazy occultists want to summon Dormammu (Door Mouse Guy) to top the entire planet crust with scorching hot lava and be his loyal minions, even though he was insulting them even before commencing with their plan and talking down to them.

    And then the regular series starts, and Steve Engleharts issues are at least proper in villain motivation for 11 issues, then came Len Wein with some solid issues and two stories of villains with absurdly nutty plans:

    *Xemnu wants to repeat his mistake from Marvel Feature 02, but with population of an isolated town instead of children this time and a rocket built slowly inside the Town Hall. He also defeats Hulk and attracts the attention of other Defenders who again put a halt on his crap plan.

    *The Squadron Sinister want to destroy the planet Earth by selling it to an alien aquatic archaeologist to allow him to melt the icecaps and cause global flooding, all because baby mind Hyperion is mad that he was locked in a container and before that his atom world was demolished, the subatomic world that existed within confines of regular Earth.

    *Wrecking Crew destroy buildings more pricey than the ransom they demand, cherry-pick buildings owned by Kyle Richmond (the newly joined Defender at the time; Nighthawk) and ask for millions of dollars and cause more property damage, not caring that their money will lose value the more property they destroy (even if you were to remind me property destruction happens all too often in superhero comics, 80s and 90s comics had it especially worse). The Four Stooges do that more often it seems based on their appearance in Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, not caring that they will eventually attract attention of superheroes in a city boatloaded with them who defeated them more than once before.




    *SIGH*

    List any ideas and stories you can think of that you read in the pages of some Marvel Comics. Max, Icon and Malibu count as well considering they are Marvel Imprints.
    TRUTH, JUSTICE, HOPE
    That is, the heritage of the Kryptonian Warrior: Kal-El, son of Jor-El
    You like Gameboy and NDS? - My channel
    Looks like I'll have to move past gameplay footage

  2. #2
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,884

    Default

    Any villain or villains committing crimes in New York or New York City.

    IT'S. THE. SUPERHERO. CAPITOL. OF. THE. WORLD. STOP. IT.

    I'm just waiting for Electro or The Shocker to look at a map and realise that they can hit a bank or banks in Iowa with zero resistance.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  3. #3
    Ultimate Member babyblob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    New Richmond Ohio
    Posts
    12,320

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    Any villain or villains committing crimes in New York or New York City.

    IT'S. THE. SUPERHERO. CAPITOL. OF. THE. WORLD. STOP. IT.

    I'm just waiting for Electro or The Shocker to look at a map and realise that they can hit a bank or banks in Iowa with zero resistance.
    I always wondered that. Like take a Greyhound to Gary Indiana and go nuts. I mean I doubt any heroes are going to come stop you.
    This Post Contains No Artificial Intelligence. It Contains No Human Intelligence Either.

  4. #4
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,884

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I always wondered that. Like take a Greyhound to Gary Indiana and go nuts. I mean I doubt any heroes are going to come stop you.
    Fun fact, there is a team called The Fantastix that operated out of Philadelphia. They left Philadelphia so they could make a name for themselves in New York! If your a villain guess which city you should head for? You can read about it in Fantastic Four #4 . Slott wrote it and the art was by Stefano Caselli and Nick Leon.
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  5. #5
    Formerly Assassin Spider Huntsman Spider's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    New Jersey, U.S.A.
    Posts
    21,466

    Default

    To Shocker's credit, he did try to ply his trade, such as it is, in New Jersey . . . but then the resident hero of Jersey City, one Ms. Marvel, stumbled upon and beat him. I think that happened in one of the later issues of G. Willow Wilson's run.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

  6. #6
    Ultimate Member Riv86672's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    11,008

    Default

    Paste Pot Pete and any plan that doesn’t involve patenting his formula for legitimate millions.

  7. #7
    Astonishing Member Anthony W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3,884

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    To Shocker's credit, he did try to ply his trade, such as it is, in New Jersey . . . but then the resident hero of Jersey City, one Ms. Marvel, stumbled upon and beat him. I think that happened in one of the later issues of G. Willow Wilson's run.
    Hate to break it to you but I don't count New Jersey as being separate from New York nor does the rest of America lol
    Last edited by Anthony W; 09-06-2020 at 09:28 PM. Reason: Seriously....New Jersey?!
    "The Marvel EIC Chair has a certain curse that goes along with it: it tends to drive people insane, and ultimately, out of the business altogether. It is the notorious last stop for many staffers, as once you've sat in The Big Chair, your pariah status is usually locked in." Christopher Priest

  8. #8
    Latverian ambassador Iron Maiden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Latverian Embassy
    Posts
    20,654

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I always wondered that. Like take a Greyhound to Gary Indiana and go nuts. I mean I doubt any heroes are going to come stop you.
    I grew up there....believe me, there isn't much left to rob.

  9. #9
    Mighty Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    1,510

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I always wondered that. Like take a Greyhound to Gary Indiana and go nuts. I mean I doubt any heroes are going to come stop you.
    It'd be just the villain's luck a superhero would be visiting Gary, Indiana that same day.

  10. #10
    iMan 42s
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    3,654

    Default

    Doctor Doom’s return to villainy was all kinds of dumb.

    Basically his plan was to call Galactus to Earth and then siphon his power to create impossibly powerful batteries. This is all kinds of dumb because should Galactus die the universe goes to Hell. The batteries Doom makes gets exported where? Nobody really trusted Doom before, why would they now when he’s got the evil version of Duracell? If Doom can power up Victorious why does he need Galactus? Why can’t he just do that again? Why Galactus specifically? Doom uses a gun that shoots miniature big bangs in the same arc. So what’s the point of power cosmic if Doom can just make Big Bang batteries? Why not just tell someone about this or better yet do a Doom version of the arc reactor seeing as he was operating as Ironman not too long before this? Can’t do his own version of an arc reactor despite wearing a damn Iron man suit but will call Galactus on the off chance he doesn’t eat the planet.

    Doom’s return to being a bad guy was stupid.
    -----------------------------------
    For anyone that needs to know why OMD is awful please search the internet for Linkara' s video's specifically his One more day review or his One more day Analysis.

  11. #11
    Mighty Member LifeIsILL's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    1,658

    Default

    The first Ms.Marvel story where the parrot-looking villain was kidnapping children and turning them into batteries or something.....couldn't figure out what the hell that was all about....or what exactly what his motivation was.

    And in Jigsaw Puzzle Jigsaw decides to worship Belasco and gain powers so he can lead some dumb gangs and fight the Punisher of all people. Don't know why he needed devil powers just to fight the Punisher. Absurd story.

  12. #12
    Astonishing Member Zelena's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Posts
    4,567

    Default

    When I read so long ago the story of Kang who wanted to ressurect his “dead wife”, after crying so much about his lost love and eventually when faced between recovering his wife and killing the avengers, he chose the latter… well, yes I thought: “Is that dumb?”
    I wonder if it’s an editorial choice to consider that villains can’t help but committing evil like a dog can’t help going after meat…


    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    I always wondered that. Like take a Greyhound to Gary Indiana and go nuts. I mean I doubt any heroes are going to come stop you.
    At the beginning of all villains, there’s a deep narcissistic wound. They want to be someone, to matter (and well, yes, to be respected)… You can hardly achieve that by being the King of… Gary Indiana.
    In a way, villains are the entrepreneurs of comics, they always imagine something to improve their situation… and the heroes seem to exist just to oppose them.
    “Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe

  13. #13
    Boisterously Confused
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    9,497

    Default

    The Living Laser's initial plan was to impress the girl he was stalking into liking him by robbing banks, but he dropped that on first laying eyes on The Wasp, and shifted to impressing The Wasp into liking him by murdering her boyfriend and teammates.

  14. #14
    Cosmic Curmudgeon JudicatorPrime's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Carmel Valley, CA
    Posts
    8,455

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony W View Post
    I'm just waiting for Electro or The Shocker to look at a map and realise that they can hit a bank or banks in Iowa with zero resistance.
    In their defense, most banks in small states/towns don't usually carry that much actual cash on hand. Legally, they're only required to keep about 3% of their total local checking accounts as cash reserves. Obviously, that amount varies depending on the financial calendar. For example, on paydays banks would usually keep more cash on hand, partly as a result of increased direct deposits from their accountholders' employers and such.

    So even if you go to a major national bank in a small town, don't be surprised if the total amount of liquid cash it has is only in the tens of thousands of dollars. No, I don't expect every Marvel villain to be aware of banking practices -- and that goes double for most writers -- but any bad guy headed to the Dakotas to do a bank heist would need to hit several banks to really make it worthwhile. My hunch is by the time their spree progressed to the 3rd bank, Monica Rambeau, who can travel around the world 7 times in 1 second, or someone with teleportation abilities, like Mjolnir-wielding Thor, would show up to ruin their day.

  15. #15
    Ultimate Member babyblob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    New Richmond Ohio
    Posts
    12,320

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    In their defense, most banks in small states/towns don't usually carry that much actual cash on hand. Legally, they're only required to keep about 3% of their total local checking accounts as cash reserves. Obviously, that amount varies depending on the financial calendar. For example, on paydays banks would usually keep more cash on hand, partly as a result of increased direct deposits from their accountholders' employers and such.

    So even if you go to a major national bank in a small town, don't be surprised if the total amount of liquid cash it has is only in the tens of thousands of dollars. No, I don't expect every Marvel villain to be aware of banking practices -- and that goes double for most writers -- but any bad guy headed to the Dakotas to do a bank heist would need to hit several banks to really make it worthwhile. My hunch is by the time their spree progressed to the 3rd bank, Monica Rambeau, who can travel around the world 7 times in 1 second, or someone with teleportation abilities, like Mjolnir-wielding Thor, would show up to ruin their day.
    Yet there are all kinds of crimes committed in the midwest and West Coast yet no hero lifts a finger to stop it.
    This Post Contains No Artificial Intelligence. It Contains No Human Intelligence Either.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •