Dumb Marvel Villains and Dumb Evil Plans

[Huntsman Spider]

Hate to break it to you but I don't count New Jersey as being separate from New York nor does the rest of America lol

Yeah.

^^^thats funny af though!

In general, any villain who wants to “ take over the world”. Once you do, you’re responsible for the upkeep. Heck w. that.

Even Doom knows this, for all the posturing about how the world would be better off under his control.

I haven't read it myself but didn't Doc Ock have a plan to cure cocaine addiction?

Wouldn't that be a good thing?

[babyblob]

I will give Electro credit. He tried to take his act on the road to San Fran. it was just his bad luck Daredevil moved there like two issues before.

[SuperiorIronman]

Doctor Doom’s return to villainy was all kinds of dumb.

Basically his plan was to call Galactus to Earth and then siphon his power to create impossibly powerful batteries. This is all kinds of dumb because should Galactus die the universe goes to Hell. The batteries Doom makes gets exported where? Nobody really trusted Doom before, why would they now when he’s got the evil version of Duracell? If Doom can power up Victorious why does he need Galactus? Why can’t he just do that again? Why Galactus specifically? Doom uses a gun that shoots miniature big bangs in the same arc. So what’s the point of power cosmic if Doom can just make Big Bang batteries? Why not just tell someone about this or better yet do a Doom version of the arc reactor seeing as he was operating as Ironman not too long before this? Can’t do his own version of an arc reactor despite wearing a damn Iron man suit but will call Galactus on the off chance he doesn’t eat the planet.

Doom’s return to being a bad guy was stupid.

[LifeIsILL]

The first Ms.Marvel story where the parrot-looking villain was kidnapping children and turning them into batteries or something.....couldn't figure out what the hell that was all about....or what exactly what his motivation was.

And in Jigsaw Puzzle Jigsaw decides to worship Belasco and gain powers so he can lead some dumb gangs and fight the Punisher of all people. Don't know why he needed devil powers just to fight the Punisher. Absurd story.

[Huntsman Spider]

Doctor Doom’s return to villainy was all kinds of dumb.

Basically his plan was to call Galactus to Earth and then siphon his power to create impossibly powerful batteries. This is all kinds of dumb because should Galactus die the universe goes to Hell. The batteries Doom makes gets exported where? Nobody really trusted Doom before, why would they now when he’s got the evil version of Duracell? If Doom can power up Victorious why does he need Galactus? Why can’t he just do that again? Why Galactus specifically? Doom uses a gun that shoots miniature big bangs in the same arc. So what’s the point of power cosmic if Doom can just make Big Bang batteries? Why not just tell someone about this or better yet do a Doom version of the arc reactor seeing as he was operating as Ironman not too long before this? Can’t do his own version of an arc reactor despite wearing a damn Iron man suit but will call Galactus on the off chance he doesn’t eat the planet.

Doom’s return to being a bad guy was stupid.

Yes. Yes, it was.

The first Ms.Marvel story where the parrot-looking villain was kidnapping children and turning them into batteries or something.....couldn't figure out what the hell that was all about....or what exactly what his motivation was.

And in Jigsaw Puzzle Jigsaw decides to worship Belasco and gain powers so he can lead some dumb gangs and fight the Punisher of all people. Don't know why he needed devil powers just to fight the Punisher. Absurd story.

His motivation was that he just hated kids or young people in general and thought turning them into batteries would make them "useful" to society.

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

Any villain or villains committing crimes in New York or New York City.

IT'S. THE. SUPERHERO. CAPITOL. OF. THE. WORLD. STOP. IT.

That's could be the short obvious answer, but I hope for more interesting idiocy. I'm thankful to read every story here, these tales are verily entertaining to read about.

With this one I must take issue. That was part of a three-issue arc in which it was revealed the ransom was part scam, part cover. The Wrecking Crew were after a miniaturized gamma-bomb Thunderball had created for one of Richmond's companies. Thunderball had lost it in a vat of steel (or concrete) while tying reclaim his creation (or as Richmond's people saw it, steal their lawfully owned IP), and that steel (or concrete) was poured into the buildings the WC leveled.

So, are the WC dumb? Oh, yeah. With the exception of Thunderball, that's been a constant feature of their depiction. Probably one of the most stable characterizations over the decades in all of comics.

Was this plan dumb? Nah.

Fair point. I read the rest of the story after my complaint.

I haven't read it myself but didn't Doc Ock have a plan to cure cocaine addiction?

I think his plan was to make addiction a global issue, and wanted a ransom to dispense the cure for it.

[lalalei2001]

There's a lot of Silver Age silliness. My favorite was when Baron Zemo got his mask glued to his face and didn't think about a solution to it for 20 years until he decided to weaponize the stuff against the Avengers and one of them mentioned finding a solution to the adhesive, which completely floors him. "A solution to Adhesive X! I never thought of that!"

[Steel Inquisitor]

There's a lot of Silver Age silliness. My favorite was when Baron Zemo got his mask glued to his face and didn't think about a solution to it for 20 years until he decided to weaponize the stuff against the Avengers and one of them mentioned finding a solution to the adhesive, which completely floors him. "A solution to Adhesive X! I never thought of that!"

Someone needs to retcon this into being a prank from Trapster because he didn't like Zemo.

[Anthony W]

The Kingpin.

The character is a relic from another era. How is he still ruling New York? He wouldn't last ten seconds at DC. At DC He is the fodder that gets taken down in the first two pages on the way to the real villain. The Flash's rogue gallery really needs to create a seminar that the Marvel villains can attend.

[PCN24454]

The Kingpin.

The character is a relic from another era. How is he still ruling New York? He wouldn't last ten seconds at DC. At DC He is the fodder that gets taken down in the first two pages on the way to the real villain. The Flash's rogue gallery really needs to create a seminar that the Marvel villains can attend.

You sure? Lex Luthor seems to be doing pretty well.

[Tien Long]

Though I wouldn't exactly call it dumb... I always got a kick out of Count Nefaria's plot to irradiate the human race with ionic energy to force all of mankind to be politer to him.

Ah yes, loved that issue. Count Nefaria said something to the effect of "good, old fashion respect" right? I could understand it, but yeah, that was a dumb reason.

Ladies and germs, I present to you the Pope Nightcrawler plot from Chuck Austen's X-Men run.

It goes a little something like this.

Nightcrawler is studying to be a priest, but no one seems to remember him becoming one despite all of them attending and knowing he was consecrated as one.

Turns out, it was a plot by a splinter of the Catholic Church who wants to make Nightcrawler pope and have his image inducer fail and herald him as the Antichrist all while communion wafers explode the people to dust causing people to believe the rapture has begin.

There is a great many things wrong with this plot. For one, it was entirely unnecessary to bring in the X-Men. They had a mutant who could cast illusions. Using that one would have made this plot go off without a hitch.

Second, becoming pope is a convoluted process that would take years and years.

Third, the Rapture isn't catholic belief much less dogma.

Fourth, there is no central place where communion wafers are made. They're all made locally.

Fifth, the villain's motivation is dumber than a sack of hammers.

Ugh, the less said about Austen's run, the better. We got a notable Manga artist doing illustrations, but yeah, the storylines were just f'ed up.

Hate to break it to you but I don't count New Jersey as being separate from New York nor does the rest of America lol

Ha, true. Though I'm willing to bet the folks over in the city would roll their eyes if I said I was from the "NYC area." Actually they have, so...yeah . Though I will say Southern Jersey is more Philly and Southern.

As for villains doing dumb things, well, I can't point to any one specific villain. I'm surprised a lot of the villains now aren't spending time and money in cyber crimes. I'm willing to bet it's easier to hack into a bank or corporation and steal financial info rather than take a sack and steal the bank at a Bank of America.

Could Maximum Carnage be considered a "dumb crime"? Carnage just causing wanton destruction and mayhem seemed on the surface to be "spreading a message." But it just seemed really annoying. Maybe that was a matter of story execution rather than a dumb villain.

[Huntsman Spider]

Ah yes, loved that issue. Count Nefaria said something to the effect of "good, old fashion respect" right? I could understand it, but yeah, that was a dumb reason.



Ugh, the less said about Austen's run, the better. We got a notable Manga artist doing illustrations, but yeah, the storylines were just f'ed up.



Ha, true. Though I'm willing to bet the folks over in the city would roll their eyes if I said I was from the "NYC area." Actually they have, so...yeah . Though I will say Southern Jersey is more Philly and Southern.

As for villains doing dumb things, well, I can't point to any one specific villain. I'm surprised a lot of the villains now aren't spending time and money in cyber crimes. I'm willing to bet it's easier to hack into a bank or corporation and steal financial info rather than take a sack and steal the bank at a Bank of America.

Could Maximum Carnage be considered a "dumb crime"? Carnage just causing wanton destruction and mayhem seemed on the surface to be "spreading a message." But it just seemed really annoying. Maybe that was a matter of story execution rather than a dumb villain.

The message, such as it was, was that things like order and morality were illusions and chaos was the only truth of the world. I would say it boiled down to story execution, though, as it was supposed to be a madman and his cohorts causing an entire city's terrifying descent into madness and anarchy, but it was just more overblown 90s edginess instead.

[Tien Long]

The message, such as it was, was that things like order and morality were illusions and chaos was the only truth of the world. I would say it boiled down to story execution, though, as it was supposed to be a madman and his cohorts causing an entire city's terrifying descent into madness and anarchy, but it was just more overblown 90s edginess instead.

Yep, there we go. Remember too many lines of "body bag" this and that during the series. Now, I appreciate it nonetheless, I'm okay with the edginess. I could even see the message (as well as Spider-Man's counter of decency and upholding morality) but yeah, if the writers wanted to hammer home the point of destruction, there had to be better scenes of that destruction.

[DrNewGod]

For guys that called themselves The Masters of Evil, almost every scheme they tried between The Zemos was Meatheads making Meathead Plays. Especially the Melter/Radioactive Man/Klaw/Whirlwind combo.

[Huntsman Spider]

Yep, there we go. Remember too many lines of "body bag" this and that during the series. Now, I appreciate it nonetheless, I'm okay with the edginess. I could even see the message (as well as Spider-Man's counter of decency and upholding morality) but yeah, if the writers wanted to hammer home the point of destruction, there had to be better scenes of that destruction.

Even in the 90s, there was only so much I think Marvel execs would let the comics get away with in terms of showing the death and destruction in Carnage's wake.