We all like a good redemption story so I want to ask people's opinion on the subject. At which point you go "Nah fam, I ain't buying it. No way .......... can ever be redeemed." Does ideology play a part in it? Say between Magneto and Bullseye is the former more deserving of redemption because he kills for a pessimistic view of humanity shaped by his past while the latter kills for money/lols? Although Magneto probably killed magnitudes more than Bullseye due to sheer capabilities. Or being regretful of killing is enough for deserving redemption? And what about heroes? Despite being terribly written there are some stories which cast a bad light on some heroes. During CW Tony and Reed had a prison in Negative Zone to throw their former friends in and they are also indirectly (or directly depending on how you view it) responsible for the death of Bill Foster. During CWII Carol had shown some pretty fascist tendencies. During HoM Wanda was responsible for what befell mutantkind. To be fair she was under intense emotional stress at that point and Marvel later pushed the blame to Life Force like they did for Jean with Phoenix Force. And what about Hank Pym? He has an (in)famous reputation for slapping Janet but Spidey also got physical with MJ during Clone Saga.
My personal view on it is that if the character is traditionally depicted as a hero than I chalk stories like CW, CWII, HoM, etc. up to bad writng but I'd still like to see the events of such books acknowledged in other stories and said characters trying to make amends for their misdeeds and move on to better things. I especially hate it if a one time story creates toxicity among comic fans for any hero.
If the character is originally a nasty villain though I'm much more unforgiving. I can never see Magneto as a heroic figure although Marvel tries to paint him that way at times. He has too much blood on his hands for that. At best he's a guy who shares similar views with those that he fights against about his enemies. As for my absolute favorite, Doctor Doom, I've seen people say that he's misunderstood, that he only does what he thinks is best for his country and he truly thinks he can lead humanity to better times and I can't help but chuckle at those. Not because they are wrong but because they are not enough to make him anything more than a villain. He's a guy who destroyed an entire universe because of a temper tantrum. He's a guy who subjugated the entire planet with Purple Man's powers. He's a guy who supported insurgents in Wakanda to destabilize the country and take its natural resource. He's a guy who continuously harassed F4 because of his inferiority complex. I mean Reed can be a jerk at times but that doesn't justify attacking four people over and over again. I don't love Doom because he's some misguided hero. I love him because he's a scientifically and magically gifted delusional autocrat who doesn't shy away from talking smack, kicking @$$ and slapping the heroes with their own hypocricy every now and then. He's not a mustache twirling bad guy. He doesn't shy away from teaming up with heroes if it suits him. He can even try being a traditional hero himself like in Infamous IM. However to be he'll always be the best villain in Marvel and anything other than that in the long term is missing the point of the character to me.
So what do the posters here think about redemption?