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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Knight View Post
    Wasn't there a sort of 2-parter or continuation recently, I think it was Avengers #28 taking place right after New Avengers #?... Damn, I can't remember. But when I was reading it I knew it took place right after.
    Avengers #28 takes place before New Avengers #17. Basically Hulk joins in Avengers #28 and then in New Avengers #17, he's just there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robreedwrites View Post
    Avengers #28 takes place before New Avengers #17. Basically Hulk joins in Avengers #28 and then in New Avengers #17, he's just there.
    Yeah now I remember. Thanks. Gotta update my collection order now.

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    I gotta ask you guys this... is INFINITY actually essential to Hickman's run? Also, have yet to read his Avengers but love the New Avengers work. Can I keep reading without having to pick up Avengers? I'm not a battle guy. Am more into characterizations. I keep hearing Avengers is the 'battle book'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macicenuke View Post
    I gotta ask you guys this... is INFINITY actually essential to Hickman's run? Also, have yet to read his Avengers but love the New Avengers work. Can I keep reading without having to pick up Avengers? I'm not a battle guy. Am more into characterizations. I keep hearing Avengers is the 'battle book'.
    I would say your probably ok to skip most of the Avengers run, but I would pick up the newer issues after the time jump, because they're starting to intersect more. I think there was even an interview with Hickman where he said that as he was writing he realized he was answering questions in Avengers that were brought up in NA and same for the other way around. I'm not sure where that interview was though.

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    Cool! So I should hop on Avengers after the time jump. And like I mentioned... is Infinity essential? Or is it all pretty much summarized if I skip reading the event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macicenuke View Post
    Cool! So I should hop on Avengers after the time jump. And like I mentioned... is Infinity essential? Or is it all pretty much summarized if I skip reading the event?
    Yeah I definitely would, but I did just read today's newest issues (A #38 & NA #26) and the A one does bring up some things that happened in the first few Avengers arcs (pre-infinity). I think it explains it ok enough that you probably won't need to read the arcs themselves, just possibly ask someone for clarification if you have questions.

    As for Infinity, you can probably get away without it. So far I don't think there's really been much reference back to it, besides Thanos being frozen in that cube and the Inhumanity thing starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macicenuke View Post
    I gotta ask you guys this... is INFINITY actually essential to Hickman's run? Also, have yet to read his Avengers but love the New Avengers work. Can I keep reading without having to pick up Avengers? I'm not a battle guy. Am more into characterizations. I keep hearing Avengers is the 'battle book'.
    There is no 'battle book'. This is Hickman. Both books have very few battles, which a lot of people have complained about. There is some battling in the very first issues, but it jumps into pretty high concept Hickman-style stuff very quickly.

    Also, I think you'll be VERY confused for myriad reasons if you ignore the first 30-some Avengers books. Both Avengers and New Avengers these days intertwine and both liberaly utilize elements introduced over the Avengers run. Know who the ex nihilios are? Starbrand? Know about the earth being seeded with evolution bombs? Know who the 'zebras' are? Well, you will be wondering abut all of that if you neglect the earlier issues of Avengers.

    Seriously though, if you're worried about Avengers being a 'battle book' in ANY way you shouldn't worry and whoever told you that is flat out wrong and doing you a massive disservice.

    Infinity, on the other hand, can probably be skipped as it's strangely seldom mentioned (other than Thanos and his goonsquad who are now heavily featured in new Avengers) I still think it's an important read though, but it's actually LESS essential to the current issues than the first half of the Avengers run.
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    Rad! Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samcooke343 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm new here but it seems I've arrived at the right time - the whole forum looks like it's been reset...

    I just wanted to share my suggested reading order for Jonathan Hickman's Avengers run up to Avengers #24.NOW, there's loads of clues as to when things take place in relation to each other and other general chronological changes (suits, references etc.). I made it in Photoshop in true Hickman style, hopefully it looks somewhere close to the quality from the man himself. I took the idea from his INFINITY checklist but added in the whole run from NA #1 onwards.

    Hope you enjoy,
    Sam.

    PS. Jonathan, if you see this please correct me on anything if I'm wrong!

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    Hi, Where i can find the font that you used?? (Sorry for my english)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentFelix View Post
    Yayyy! Thanks!
    Sorry man this totally slipped my mind.
    Here is my binding order. A few things to note.
    1. It's not only Hicknman's stuff it's Avengers-centric so remove what you don't want.
    2. I've included Thanos Rising since he becomes a big player later
    3. I've included Guardians of the Galaxy due to the "United Cosmic Nations" who show up in Infinity.
    4. Secret Avengers picks up on some of the AIM stuff, that happens in Avengers #1-3, Evolution Bombs.
    5. Uncanny Avengers, Captain America, Axis. For Havok & Wasp, Old Steve Rogers and Axis respectively.
    6. I'm certain I have Mighty Avengers and other Avengers books if you want them too.

    Vol 13 Everything Dies
    AVENGERS (2013) 1
    AVENGERS (2013) 2
    AVENGERS (2013) 3
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 1
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 2
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 3
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 9
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 10
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 11
    AVENGERS (2013) 4
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 1
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 2
    AVENGERS (2013) 5
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 4
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 5
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 6
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) Tomorrow's Avengers
    A+X (2012) 7 Iron Man + Beast
    AVENGERS (2013) 6
    AVENGERS (2013) 7
    AVENGERS (2013) 8
    AVENGERS (2013) 9
    A+X (2012) 1 Hulk + Wolverine w/ cover
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 0.1
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    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 2
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 3
    THANOS RISING (2013) 1
    THANOS RISING (2013) 2
    THANOS RISING (2013) 3
    THANOS RISING (2013) 4
    THANOS RISING (2013) 5


    Vol 14 Prelude to Infinity
    AVENGERS (2013) 10
    AVENGERS (2013) 11
    A+X (2012) 8 Spider-Woman + Shadowcat
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 3
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 4
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 5
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 6
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 7
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 8
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 9
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE ANNUAL (2013) 1
    A+X (2012) 3 Hawkeye + Gambit
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 12
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 13
    AVENGERS (2013) 12
    AVENGERS (2013) 13
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 12
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 13
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 14
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 15
    SECRET AVENGERS (2013) 16
    A+X (2012) 15 Dr Strange + Beast
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 4
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 5
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 6
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 7
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 7
    AVENGERS (2013) 14
    AVENGERS (2013) 15
    AVENGERS (2013) 16
    AVENGERS (2013) 17

    Vol 15 Infinity
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 8 (1/4) stop pg 12 Black Bolt/Medusa
    INFINITY (2013) 1
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 8 (2/4) stop pg 22 Iron Man/Mr Fantastic "Invasion"
    MIGHTY AVENGERS (2013) 1 (1/2) pg 2,1,cover stop pg 16 Luke Texting
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 8 (3/4) stop pg 26 Jean Grey School
    MIGHTY AVENGERS (2013) 1 (2/2)
    MIGHTY AVENGERS (2013) 2
    MIGHTY AVENGERS (2013) 3
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 8 (4/4)
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 9
    AVENGERS (2013) 18 (1/2) stop pg 22
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 18
    AVENGERS (2013) 18 (2/2)
    CAPTAIN MARVEL (2012) 15
    CAPTAIN MARVEL (2012) 16 (1/2) stop pg 6
    INFINITY (2013) 2
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 10
    AVENGERS (2013) 19
    CAPTAIN MARVEL (2012) 16 (2/2) pg 11-14 (trash rest)
    INFINITY (2013) 3 (1/3) stop pg 10
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 19 (1/2) stop pg 18
    AVENGERS (2013) 20 (1/2) stop pg 20
    INFINITY (2013) 3 (2/3) World Killers stop pg 24
    AVENGERS ASSEMBLE (2012) 19 (2/2)
    INFINITY (2013) 3 (3/3)
    AVENGERS (2013) 20 (2/2)
    INFINITY (2013) 4
    AVENGERS (2013) 21
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 11
    INFINITY (2013) 5
    AVENGERS (2013) 22
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 8
    AVENGERS (2013) 23 (1/2) stop pg 24
    GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (2013) 9
    AVENGERS (2013) 23 (2/2)
    INFINITY (2013) 6
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 12
    AVENGERS ANNUAL (2013) 1
    MARVEL NOW POINT ONE (2014)


    Vol 16 A.I.M.PIRE
    AVENGERS (2013) 24
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 1
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 2
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 3
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 4
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 5
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 6
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 7
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 8
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 9
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 10
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 11
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 12
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 13
    AVENGERS WORLD (2014) 14
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 13
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 14
    AVENGERS (2013) 25
    AVENGERS (2013) 26
    AVENGERS (2013) 27
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 15
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 16
    AVENGERS (2013) 28
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 17
    AVENGERS (2013) 29
    AVENGERS (2013) 30
    AVENGERS (2013) 31
    AVENGERS (2013) 32
    AVENGERS (2013) 33
    AVENGERS (2013) 34
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 18
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 19
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 20
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 21
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 22
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 23
    NEW AVENGERS ANNUAL (2013) 1
    AVENGERS (2013) 34.1
    AVENGERS (2013) 34.2


    Vol 17
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 1
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 2
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 3
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 4
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 5
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 6
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 7
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 8
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 9
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 10
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 11
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 12
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 13
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 14
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 15
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 16
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 17
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 18
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 19
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 20
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 21
    UNCANNY AVENGERS (2012) 22
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 13
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 14
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 15
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 16
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 17
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 18
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 19
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 20
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 21
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 22
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 23
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 24
    CAPTAIN AMERICA (2012) 25
    RED SKULL INCARNATE (2011) 1
    RED SKULL INCARNATE (2011) 2
    RED SKULL INCARNATE (2011) 3
    RED SKULL INCARNATE (2011) 4
    RED SKULL INCARNATE (2011) 5


    Vol 17.1 AXIS

    Vol 18 Time Runs Out
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 24
    AVENGERS (2013) 35
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 25
    AVENGERS (2013) 36
    AVENGERS (2013) 37
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 26
    AVENGERS WORLD (2013) 17
    AVENGERS WORLD (2013) 18
    AVENGERS WORLD (2013) 19
    AVENGERS (2013) 38
    AVENGERS WORLD (2013) 20
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 27
    AVENGERS (2013) 39
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 28
    AVENGERS (2013) 40
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 29
    AVENGERS (2013) 41
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 30
    AVENGERS (2013) 42
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 31
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 32
    AVENGERS (2013) 43
    NEW AVENGERS (2013) 33
    AVENGERS (2013) 44
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiole12 View Post
    Hi, Where i can find the font that you used?? (Sorry for my english)
    That's from the back of one of the Avengers issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samcooke343 View Post
    Hi guys, I'm new here but it seems I've arrived at the right time - the whole forum looks like it's been reset...

    I just wanted to share my suggested reading order for Jonathan Hickman's Avengers run up to Avengers #24.NOW, there's loads of clues as to when things take place in relation to each other and other general chronological changes (suits, references etc.). I made it in Photoshop in true Hickman style, hopefully it looks somewhere close to the quality from the man himself. I took the idea from his INFINITY checklist but added in the whole run from NA #1 onwards.

    Hope you enjoy,
    Sam.

    PS. Jonathan, if you see this please correct me on anything if I'm wrong!

    Attachment 4
    WOW, This is Really, Really Good!

    Been Looking For Something like this for a Long Time, thanks Hickman!

    If anyone has the extended reading order after Infinity and/or add ons to reading orders like when Secret Avengers, Uncanny Avengers and others fall in the timeline I be Much Appreciated for the Help!
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    When did Captain America's trip to Dimension Z happen?
    When does Secret Avengers Volume 3 take place.
    When does Black Widow's solo adventures take place.

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