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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I know Agents of SHIELD was barred from using MODOK (presumably because they had plans for him in the movies).

    Loki is Thor's Archenemy though, it makes sense he'd be the main villain of the first Thor movie.
    Sure but Thanos isn’t really Guardians villain

    If they do Kang he’s going to need to be built and Ant Man is the best film to do it for the reasons I stated

    1. Time Travel in the MCU is tied to Pym. Time travel is important for Kang.

    2. Kang’s HQ city is heavily implied to be in the comic version of the Quantum Realm.

    Kang isn’t tied to a hero like Loki, Doom, Maestro, Osborne, etc. So the film that has the most elements tied to him is the one to use. And it makes sense. Ant Man is an important Avenger and he’s been b tier thus far

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    Chronopolis in distance

    Van Dyne^- "There's so much we didn't know about this place,... Worlds upon worlds. Entire civilizations. Far more than we ever theorized."

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    As long as Scott only wins by the skin of his teeth, he'd still be credible.
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    Scott will be punching above his weight class....
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    I mean Kang should be a major threat and to see him lose to Ant man .....
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    Kang is a team level threat....
    They are a team!
    Why are so many in this thread only talking about the possibility of Scott v. Kang, acting like Scott is the only viable character introduced in this leg of the franchise, and there isn't a team?
    Both movies were about expanding the roster into a team-Ant-Man in the end. Or the Ant-Fam. if you will:

    Obviously Pym and all the time and quantum Tech /science, suits, vehicles, weapons, and knowledge, he brings.
    We have both Ant-Man and Giant-Man (either as separate adding Goliath Bill Foster again) or two in one)
    Obviously Wasp
    The last film brought back Van Dyne, who adds whatever knowledge and unexplored powers (including mater manipulation?) she brings from the Quantum realm, yeah she survived in there and is able to control things that haven't even fully been explored.
    And she shares some of that power with Ghost.
    And although Ghost runs off, the scene before ends with them assembled as pretty much a family. Hoping to bring both Bill and now Ava back in the fold.
    The post credit scene is implicitly them seeking tech (extracting quantum particles) and better control to share with Ava/Ghost's quantum location and phasing powers.
    They are all part of Team-Ant-Man.



    Not to mention armies of ants species, small and giant, potentially giant Tardigrades (yeah I went there, you know it's coming!!), and the X-Con (Antourage )

    If Kang, by extension Chronopolis and the Quantum realm, expand into being a nemesis for the entire MU great, yet why do some still go on about this part of franchise like it's still just (Scott)Ant-Man. LOL!
    It's not, they've created a great team ^. Lets talk about them as a team!

    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    People do realize that it’s heavily implied that Kang’s base city Chronopolis in the future is located in the Microverse (basically the Quantum Realm)? There’s already been concept art for the last film showing a city in the Quantum Realm. 99% certain this is the direction they are going.

    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post

    2. Kang’s HQ city is heavily implied to be in the comic version of the Quantum Realm.
    And this^!
    As you indicate, Kang is perfectly being set up to start as the Team-Ant-Man-verse nemesis.
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    Kang is perfect for the next big bad. Drop a little of him in Ant-Man just to set the stage. Him being a possible future descendant of Reed Richards gives them a great way to bring in the FF to the MCU too.

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    If team ant-man do take on Kang then it will probably be using a science based scheme rather than a traditional punch up.

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    Kang and his army of water bears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamber-music View Post
    If team ant-man do take on Kang then it will probably be using a science based scheme rather than a traditional punch up.
    It'll all involve a heist somehow .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It'll all involve a heist somehow .
    Scott Lang: The days of breaking into places and stealing shit are finally over! What do you need us to do?

    Hank Pym: I want you all to break into the quantum realm, and steal a tiny space-time-dimension-displaced city, guarded by a universe conquering megalomaniac, ...and shit.

    Everyone: Makes sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    Kang and his army of water bears.
    Kurt, Dave and Luis riding giant Tardigrades out SF harbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    Kurt, Dave and Luis riding giant Tardigrades out SF harbor.
    Brilliant. Nothing else will suffice! Equp them with LowJack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Sure but Thanos isn’t really Guardians villain

    If they do Kang he’s going to need to be built and Ant Man is the best film to do it for the reasons I stated

    1. Time Travel in the MCU is tied to Pym. Time travel is important for Kang.

    2. Kang’s HQ city is heavily implied to be in the comic version of the Quantum Realm.

    Kang isn’t tied to a hero like Loki, Doom, Maestro, Osborne, etc. So the film that has the most elements tied to him is the one to use. And it makes sense. Ant Man is an important Avenger and he’s been b tier thus far
    Kang is tied to The Avengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Kang is tied to The Avengers.
    As is the Ant-Man franchise, which is tied to the Quantum Realm by way we know people time travel in the films.
    And since Kang is a time travelling villain, who could possibly be built up to take on the Avengers in later films, his intro is being tied to Ant-Man franchise and the Quantum Realm first, makes sense.
    Why is everyone up on their huffy-bikes about this!?

    Last edited by Güicho; 09-16-2020 at 06:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    As is the Ant-Man franchise, which is tied to the Quantum Realm by way we know people time travel in the films.
    And since Kang is a time travelling villain, who could possibly be built up to take on the Avengers in later films, his intro is being tied to Ant-Man franchise and the Quantum Realm first, makes sense.
    Why is everyone up on their huffy-bikes about this!?

    Because people are afraid of Kang being beaten by a 'lowly' Ant-Man

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    With how intense Hollywood is when it concerns POC characters, I hope Disney knows what they are doing and learn from the horrible mistakes they made with their Star Wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    As is the Ant-Man franchise, which is tied to the Quantum Realm by way we know people time travel in the films.
    And since Kang is a time travelling villain, who could possibly be built up to take on the Avengers in later films, his intro is being tied to Ant-Man franchise and the Quantum Realm first, makes sense.
    Why is everyone up on their huffy-bikes about this!?

    I guess if we say it's connected in so far as Ant-Man was with The Avengers and used a concept that was relevant to the last Avengers movie, but he's still his own thing.

    I just don't think Kang makes sense as a villain for just Ant-Man, but if this is just introducing him for later, that makes more sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Because people are afraid of Kang being beaten by a 'lowly' Ant-Man
    I mean, I'm not afraid so much as not sure how they could make it work, especially when it seems like you should be saving Kang up to actually fight The Avengers.

    That and I'd prefer to see them fight AIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Because people are afraid of Kang being beaten by a 'lowly' Ant-Man
    I hope he gets beat by lowly Ant-Man and stomped by his own army of water bears for good measure. And that the Avengers get a different main villain who is less lame.
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