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Either the Fantastic Four or the Avengers get respect in the Marvel Universe.
As a whole the Avengers get more respect because they apear more in saving the world from major villains (Can be seen comparing the times the Avengers apear in Marvel events to the times Fantastic Four apear in events or who is more of a protagonist of these two teams of characters in those very same events)
For example the change of members in the Fantastic Four are not something that looks as something that is important in the Marvel Universe as the change of members in the Avengers.
And that´s something that is not a fault in the stories but more with how historically the Fantastic Four stories are more about stories of a family that the stories of the Avengers.
In universe they are very much respected... but I don't get the same rock star vibe the Avengers have.
Think of it in Justice League terms. Superman and Batman are already big high profile celebrity heroes... and now you're putting them together in the JLA. It's like Madonna back in the day forming a group with Micheal Jackson with the Rolling Stones playing back up.
Avengers are kind of that with Captain America, Iron Man and Thor. They're greater than the some of their parts. FF doesn't have that multiplayer action.
To put it in simple terms, FF don't necessarily get as many parades as the Avengers do. Doesn't mean theyre not respected... but they probably have the number 2 spot.
The Fantastic Four: Mostly positive due to Reed's influence in the world and the other members being down-to-Earth. They're portrayed as being at good terms with most of 616.
Avengers: Varies but it's lower than FF for sure. This is probably due to most of their personal matters causing trouble for the general public.
X-Men: Bad due to 616's mutant problems.
Champions: Only liked by teens.
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Brute force is the most loved!
Ok for real i think it's the fantastic four. In the 60s they were not as liked from people wanting to boot them out of their home to people saying galactus was fake and made up by the ff to the point it put the thing into a depressing! Afterwords however they took off. They have toys, video games, they are movie stars and have acted in films, torch had a tv show, all the ff cartoons we got were real in the mcu also. In marvels they were on signs for food chains and the wedding was huge and treated like stars getting married! The ff is marvels "royal family" to the mcu.
Avengers is still loved and that can lead to hate. People are picky about who they want in the avengers like attacking justice and firestar and getting upset over no black heroes on the team leading to 3-D man coming in.
Ironic people attacked justice but loved beast! Even had a guy dress as him in a avengers day issue! Avengers have parades, a once a year a day event like in the game, toys and comics and shirts! People keep up with all members and even will judge them on how good or powerful they are to the team. Avengers are like a football team. They love the team but may not like all the players!
X-men are feared most of the time but were loved after fall of the mutants when they "died" to save everyone. X-factor was loved as well in the 80s. Excalibur was loved in the uk and alpha flight was loved in canada.
here's the full roster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...c_Four_members
A number of characters are closely affiliated with the team, share complex personal histories with one or more of its members but have never actually held an official membership. They include but are not limited to:
Trouble is some ARE members on that list. Heck they showed up in the "all ff members" story.
Herbie, ghost rider, wolvrine and hulk were ff members. Thundra has been listed as a full member by marvel at times as well. They list Lyja/ namor/ kristoff as "aids" as well but they went on full missions with the ff for over 14 issues! Dr doom was LEADER of the ff for 2 issues in the 70s! What about the wildstorm heroes who joined in heroes return?
Where is tigra? Wasn't she a one time member? Where is iceman who they confirmed was a ff member?
That list is not right.
Steve's faction ended up with the lower public opinion because they were essentially arguing for the right to be vigilantes without consequences. No one wanted to hear about how superheroes have perfect judgement after the New Warriors got over 600 people killed. Iron Man's faction at least acted like they were trying to keep the public's trust.
That's true. If you include the wrecked-a-hotel-while-stoned-on-what-have-you infamy that sometimes attaches to rock stars. As others have pointed out, the Avengers probably have higher highs with the in-verse public, but they are also prone to much more severe PR disasters. Their reputation is probably more extreme than the FF's, in both directions, but not likely more respected.
The Fantastic Four are essentially The Beatles of the MU. So I'd say they have a rock star vibe but like the Beatles have become so widely and popularly embraced that they've lost the outlaw bad boy sheen that they started with. There's no one kind of rockstar after all.
Bear in mind that when Justice League first launched, Batman and Superman were there but weren't too heavily featured. Those two characters had their own team up book (World's Finest Comics) that was published before and after and alongside Justice League. Wonder Woman was famously made the "secretary".Think of it in Justice League terms. Superman and Batman are already big high profile celebrity heroes... and now you're putting them together in the JLA.
So even the JLA were never all that at the start. They were novel certainly but it took a while before that title lived up to what it promised.
As far as Marvel goes, their Superman and Batman is Spider-Man. He's the only solo hero they've had that commanded that, and Spider-Man has had a longer association with Fantastic Four than with the Avengers (also a happier relationship with the FF than the Avengers, who mostly treat him badly).
The Marvel Team books are not comparable to the DC stuff in any way. Remember for most of history, Marvel's biggest team is X-Men, and right now it's the biggest team once again.
How do we even quantify that?To put it in simple terms, FF don't necessarily get as many parades as the Avengers do.
[QUOTE=Revolutionary_Jack;5145649]The Fantastic Four are essentially The Beatles of the MU. So I'd say they have a rock star vibe but like the Beatles have become so widely and popularly embraced that they've lost the outlaw bad boy sheen that they started with. There's no one kind of rockstar after all.
Bear in mind that when Justice League first launched, Batman and Superman were there but weren't too heavily featured. Those two characters had their own team up book (World's Finest Comics) that was published before and after and alongside Justice League. Wonder Woman was famously made the "secretary". /QUOTE]
Wonder Woman was Secretary in The Golden Age Era JSA. With The Justice league she was a member and fought side by side with the rest.
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Public opinion turns on the FF every now and then though. The start of Robinson's run had a lot of people bringing up their grievances towards the FF that they didn't even know about.
Even The Avengers clash with the government at times. Just in terms of their general goals and methods of operating they come off as, usually, a more traditional Superhero team despite their standing or view by local law enforcement.The X-men have been hunted multiple times by the government or Clash with the government. Off the top
1. Krakoa(clash with government)
2. Utopia(clash with government)
3. After M-day- All the mutants were rounded up in camps
4. Outback era- They were hiding from government???
5. Operation Zero Tolerance-Government hunted them down
6. Pre Hickman a government agency- was allowed to hunt them
7. X-men Red-( clashed with government)
8. The X-men clash with Avengers over Magneto back in the day
They are more stuff, Plus M-pox and Phoenix Five stuff also didn't help their cause. The X-men is clearly in the camp of Rebels and I think Claremont's Xavier Security Forces attempt when they were UN sponsored and had badges and the begin of San Francisco era was last two times they have tried to be straight up heroes. We have more comic history with them as rebels than traditional superheroes at this point.The public has to see the government reactions to the X-men and their view point will be shaped by that.
But in-universe the commonly regarded Superman/Batman analogue are Cap, Iron Man, or Thor if you slot him into the Superman slot instead of Wonder Woman.
But Avengers is still their go-to, main, Superhero team book.The Marvel Team books are not comparable to the DC stuff in any way. Remember for most of history, Marvel's biggest team is X-Men, and right now it's the biggest team once again.
If we're speaking in story, and no Spiderman doesn't command the respect comparable to a Superman. The closest parallel is Captain America.
If we're not talking in story then comparing the Avengers to the FF isn't really that close. Again no disrespect to the FF ... I'm a fan. But they haven't been really all that relevant to the larger mu in quite some time.
We are discussing comics here and not the MCU. The success of the MCU hasn't translated to the comics versions of The Avengers and for that matter Iron Man, Thor, Captain America.
And success is not forever. The Avengers are big now because of the MCU but there's no guarantee they'll always be big. Superman was big after the Reeve movie, now he's still big but he's been diminished with his most recent films not selling as well as Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Shazam and so on.
The biggest Marvel event of the last decade -- Secret Wars 2015 happens to have the FF at the center.