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    Default Hellions #4 Spoiler/Review - The Tragic Case of Madelyne Pryor




    In Nebraska, Maddie is telling Alex that she wants to raise an army with dead minds and soulds of void. She wants to use them to bring Hell to her enemies

    Nanny, Greycrow, Orphanmaker Kwannon and Wildchild are fighting the Maruarder zombies. Arclight lets them know that Maddie is waking up all the clones. She tells John that she's back and he shoots her in the head and proceeds to kill the other clones as the others go for Maddie.



    Maddie senses that Alex has a wounded mind nad wonders who did that to him but is shot in the chest by Greycrow. As she dies she tells Alex to remember her and that she wanted them all to know that she was a real girl. He rages out and blows the place up as the Hellions make their way out. He emerges from the rubble and asks if he did that and then laughs



    Data page: Post Mission report

    Ists been a week and they are concerned about Alex. Emma has been working with him for his sporadic memory loss. He rememebers Maddie being shot but not who did it and he doesnt seem interested. Emma is hesitant to prod further bc she feels guilty about how things turned out the last time she fixed him

    Greycrow...a weight has been lifted from him but he worries about the resrrections of his former teamates. He thinks they should be but without Sinister's modifications

    Empath was KIA but no explanation was given

    Wild Child has calmed down but seems obsessed with Kwannon, showing aggression to threats to her

    Nanny was traumatized seeing Sinister's past upclose. Emma thinks any emotion she shows is progess

    Maddie fell as a combatant and being a clone of Jean, the Council must decide what to do with her

    Krakoa.....Kwannon, Greycrow and Wildchild are seen on the beach sharing a moment.

    Bar Sinister...Scott tells Alex that since Maddie was a clone, the Council voted no on her resurrection. He's sorry it didnt work out as Alex cries. Sinister is enjoying it all. Nanny is mad about the dead mutant children she saw.. Sinister reminds her that all the resurrected owe him as they are his children. Nanny threatenes him and says when she comes to punish him, she wants to know how many orphans that will make

    This was a good issue and finish to the first arc. Loved the tease at the end. I think they are definitely setting up Sinister's fall and Nanny has now been thrown in as someone that might come after him
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    I understand why the council decided not to resurrect Maddie, and generally agree with it, but the reasoning will be sticky down the line. If Maddie doesn't count as "real" what does that mean for Laura, Gabby, the Cuckoos, etc? Sophie and Esme have already been reborn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davetvs View Post
    I understand why the council decided not to resurrect Maddie, and generally agree with it, but the reasoning will be sticky down the line. If Maddie doesn't count as "real" what does that mean for Laura, Gabby, the Cuckoos, etc?
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    That's fair.

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    Is there any doubt that this is the best thing going with this new era? Another flawless issue by Wells and Segovia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    Yeah, one important point is that the data pages stated that Maddie wasn't "human"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    Therein lies the details of why this isn't the same as other clone resurrections. If it had been the original clone of Madelyn I could see the argument being the same. But what she is/was now/most recently is very different than simply a clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nash View Post
    Therein lies the details of why this isn't the same as other clone resurrections. If it had been the original clone of Madelyn I could see the argument being the same. But what she is/was now/most recently is very different than simply a clone.
    I suspect that this isn't the end of the story and Maddie will be back sooner than later. She's not a clone anymore, in fact she's in part a magical being and they don't stay dead for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    Arkea and the Enchantresses genetically and magically altered a body to make it look like Jean for psychic ghost Maddy. Not Spiral. Otherwise you’re right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    So then Alex might as well thirst dog over Jean at this point. It's not like she's being stingy with the egg basket plus they already live together and there's been weirder...

    I mean why stop at kissing just on of your brothers wives. I'm sure Scott wouldn't mind.
    The Krakoans are EEEvil!

    THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

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    Just gonna guess that this will all blow up in the Council's faces one of these days and then they'll act all shocked and surprised and like they never saw it coming and don't deserve any of it when they're obviously playing favorites and such, maybe Maddy when she comes back will pull the dark parts of Alex out of him and make her own Goblin King that isn't Alex and such...like having her version of Alex so that there's two of them...and Scott willingly siding with Sinister over his own brother...another of Scott's winning moments...note sarcasm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    Define "real".

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    Well, that certainly wrapped up more quickly than I thought that it would.

    Very interested in seeing where this goes next.

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    this arc actually had resolutions and a conclusion. still well written with good art. this team needs to stick around as it's clearly a top x-book right now.

    outclassing Marauders, X-Force and Excalibur despite the odd line up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She's not real. Its not the same thing. Maddie was a psychic ghost created by X-man and given a magically altered body by Spiral to look like Jean. The original clone Maddie died and merged with Jean in Inferno. She was originally brought to life with a portion of Jean's soul and that and her memories merged with Jean where they've existed as one being ever since. This Maddie is a perversion of that
    By that logic Nightcrawler and Strong Guy aren’t real either. Nightcrawler died and made a deal with the Bamfs to come back at the cost of his soul. Strong Guy died and was revived by Lyla Miller whose power destroys the soul of the one revived. Both have since then died and been reborn on Krakoa. However, if their souls no longer exist, then what does that make them, clones with the memories of the original stuffed in their heads? What makes them any more real than Maddie?

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