So is excalibur telling us this whole coven thing apoc has been talking about is the externals. Also Apoc plans on sacrificing some of the externals to create the portal but rictor powers up and mentions how apoc also did it to rogue and maybe betsy so i'm wondering is the implication apoc replaced the old externals in his coven with Rictor, Betsy, and Rogue and now they are connected with him, and selene as the new externals in their coven?