Metahumans
Normal with tech
Mix of both
I'm old school enough that I automatically interpret the term "Flash's Rogues" to mean his entire gallery, rather than the organization that has appeared in the last few years. After thinking a second - naturally, after already having voted - I'd say non-meta
I think it's also a good way of separating Barry's Rogues from Wally's.
Barry's Rogues are mostly tech-based gimmick villains while Wally's Rogues were mostly Methumans with powers. Did Plunder even have powers? I forget.
That's a good point.
I also wonder if Wally's rogues will ever be good enough to kind of band together in a similar fashion to Barry's and create a consistent group dynamic. It would be a big ask, but not impossible. Blacksmith, Girder, Magenta, Murmur, Plunder, Double Down. I know they had time to shine in Rogue War but they were never developed as a cohesive family. I wonder if a writer could come along and revamp their origins with stronger themes. Curious what other Flash fans think about that one.
Well they can still be blue collar crooks, just that Cold got desperate to beat the Flash and merged his weapon with himself. And like I said they just look more interesting and makes sense why the Flash would struggle against them. Like most Batman villains are regular people because he has no power while most superman villains have powers. Plus it would nicely separate Captain Cold from Mr Freeze or Heatwave from Firefly since people would draw comparisons. I know Golden Glider definitely should be a metahuman with her astral powers since pre 52 she just use skates to commit crimes and in the show she uses a Gold Gun that is basically the same as the Cold Gun (and also makes the Golden Glider make no sense)
Because they’re normal people. Maybe back in the silver age before the speed force became a thing it made sense for flash rogues to be regular people with technology but given how OP flash is now it makes no sense why normal people struggle against him. Becoming metahumans expanded their powers and made them stronger. Plus like I said it just makes fights more interesting than just shooting beams at flash
Well in the new 52 they still had their weapons before Dr Elias gave them the genome recoder so Snart still built (or stole) his cold gun. Also I feel only Cold created his weapon. Plus like I said some just end up looking too similar to Batman villains. Mr Freeze and Captain Cold? FireFly and Heatwave?
CW really did Top and Mirror Master dirty. In Rogue Revolution Mirror Master is actually stuck in the mirror dimension and can pul people in it, manipulate the world, impale them with shards of mirror glass and create clones of himself. Basically they all got pretty big upgrades
Snart could harden his fists, create pillars, blizzards and even freeze a river. Heatwave could fire skeletons and even engulf himself in fire turning himself into a fire monster, golden glider became astral basically being a ghost and weather wizard well he’s pretty much the same but it makes more sense than using a wand
Disagree - the tech works just as well as "powers", makes them distinct from other power foes, and gives the rogues gallery more variety because you know they're going to use Reverse-Flash and Gorilla Grodd, so making them have powers just makes it that less diverse and interesting.
I like the idea of it being a mix of both. Like, they have powers but it's useless without their weapons. Take their weapons away and they would be no less trouble than the average crook. Keep them as a threat but still have them be underdogs.
Not really. Besides Weather Wizard everyone else was upgraded from their meta powers. For starters they all developed immunity to their abilities
Captain Cold ice was more potent, could build constructions and hit harder with frozen hands
Heatwave could create fire skeletons and engulf himself in flames
Golden Glider could phase through object and fly
Mirror Master could use any reflection and control the mirror dimension
Like I said only Weather Wizard really wasn't effect all that much besides being able to shoot lighting bolts and hail from his hands but giving him super powers still makes more sense than a wand
Plus it made an interesting aspect that they had to adapt to their powers. Mardon's mood was tied with the weather and began to go mad, Snart froze everything, Rory would burn when he was angry, Lisa didn't have a physical body and Scudder was trapped in the mirror dimension. They could always start off being normal people then gain meta powers
EDIT: Plus the only way to disarm them is to knock them unconscious rather than just taking their stuff
Last edited by Dboi2001; 09-19-2020 at 01:36 PM.