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    Default Immortal She-Hulk #1 Preview - Logan talking about Krakoa





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    Damn Logan laying the smack down with his words.

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    Logan makes a good point there. Before Krakoa was founded humans couldn't live in Krakoa either ... because it didn't exist. Well, it existed in the form of a tiny island, not a nation.

    For 99.99% of humans, the only difference before and after the founding of Krakoa is that they now have medicines that they didn't before.

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    Ewing is a bro babie

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    In fairness, as Logan points out this particular brand of whining is more the province of the Green Hulks than the Proto-Novissma as a whole

    In barely works with Bruce and its a hell of a bad fit for Jen

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    Wait, I thought Jen's shtick was she kept her normal intelligence/speech patterns when she Hulked out?

    Also, I guess the Utopia years no longer happened if Krakoa is the "first time" mutants have had a safe place?
    Still hoping for that Helix Reunion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Wait, I thought Jen's shtick was she kept her normal intelligence/speech patterns when she Hulked out?

    Also, I guess the Utopia years no longer happened if Krakoa is the "first time" mutants have had a safe place?
    The trauma of her first trip through the Green Door plus Eson messing with her brain’s left her more Bruce-like of late

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Wait, I thought Jen's shtick was she kept her normal intelligence/speech patterns when she Hulked out?

    Also, I guess the Utopia years no longer happened if Krakoa is the "first time" mutants have had a safe place?
    I mean there have been multiple proto-Krokoas (ie Avalon) but none of them were as well-protected, had political power or as much resources. Utopia in particular seemed very tied to San Fransisco still as it was a barren island that didn't really seem suitable for growing much on there.
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    Yess Logan tell her. And yess Ewing

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    It doesn't affect humans until it does. When you create an ethno-state based on "genetic purity" it is going to have effects elsewhere, not the least on other people in other parts of the world who want to create similar states. To be frank, Hickman and Marvel putting out this kind of story in the age of Trump is very disturbing. I don't know if any white surpremacists in the real world have latched onto the current X-Men series to validate their ideas (I'm not prepared to do an internet search to find out) but I would not at all be surprised to find out that they have.

    I think Hickman is a very intelligent and capable writer and the hints that Krakoa is a very, very sinister place have been dropping all over the place, so I'm willing to see how this plays out. But the X-Men, as currently being written, are race supremacists and that is a really dark turn to take, however it is rationalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    Ewing is a bro babie
    This made me really excited for whatever X-Book he's going to write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunN View Post
    It doesn't affect humans until it does. When you create an ethno-state based on "genetic purity" it is going to have effects elsewhere, not the least on other people in other parts of the world who want to create similar states. To be frank, Hickman and Marvel putting out this kind of story in the age of Trump is very disturbing. I don't know if any white surpremacists in the real world have latched onto the current X-Men series to validate their ideas (I'm not prepared to do an internet search to find out) but I would not at all be surprised to find out that they have.

    I think Hickman is a very intelligent and capable writer and the hints that Krakoa is a very, very sinister place have been dropping all over the place, so I'm willing to see how this plays out. But the X-Men, as currently being written, are race supremacists and that is a really dark turn to take, however it is rationalized.
    Since the comparison you seem to be making is essentially "Apple"/"Orange", I'd have to politely disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Wait, I thought Jen's shtick was she kept her normal intelligence/speech patterns when she Hulked out?

    Also, I guess the Utopia years no longer happened if Krakoa is the "first time" mutants have had a safe place?
    Jason Aaron is a hack who's been writing her as hulk but tits in avengers, and now everyone has to work around that.
    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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