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    Quote Originally Posted by MrM View Post
    Considering Monica's comments about SWORD supposed to be related to space ... it would make sense that her engineer be someone with experience designing/building spacecraft. Thus, Reed Richards is a possibility.

    The curve ball that I personally would love to see from this series? That this is all just Wanda processing grief. Mental health is necessary and should be something that gets addressed, rather than written off as "what bad guy can we blame?" We've seen her wish fulfillment that life be simple; and her going through stages of "what I want but don't have." I'm not a mental health expert, or even involved with the mental health field; but I have a family member who was suicidal, and deals with anxiety & depression. I think it would be awesome if we saw Wanda process her loss, her anger, her depression; and came away stronger ... or at least with some coping mechanisms, and a positive message for those suffering from mental health issues.
    I'm not sure "Grief turned Wanda into a monster who tortured thousands of people for days and would happily have kept right on doing it until they all died" is going to be a positive message no matter how many coping mechanisms come with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrM View Post
    Considering Monica's comments about SWORD supposed to be related to space ... it would make sense that her engineer be someone with experience designing/building spacecraft. Thus, Reed Richards is a possibility.

    The curve ball that I personally would love to see from this series? That this is all just Wanda processing grief. Mental health is necessary and should be something that gets addressed, rather than written off as "what bad guy can we blame?" We've seen her wish fulfillment that life be simple; and her going through stages of "what I want but don't have." I'm not a mental health expert, or even involved with the mental health field; but I have a family member who was suicidal, and deals with anxiety & depression. I think it would be awesome if we saw Wanda process her loss, her anger, her depression; and came away stronger ... or at least with some coping mechanisms, and a positive message for those suffering from mental health issues.
    That is what allot of us feel that Wanda is going threw as well MrM and if the Interviews where a Window into that from the cast, then it seems both them and the Showrunners are saying that is what they are going for for Wanda as well, which is a good thing and a good story as you so well put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Clint would make the most sense but he's in his 9th retirement at this point.

    I think all the old (and still alive) Avengers are probably difficult to contact at this point.
    Who is even left at this point? I really don't know.

    Captain America is retired. Hawkeye is retired. Iron Man and Black Widow are dead. Thor and Captain Marvel are off planet. Hulk's recuperating.

    Falcon's technically a fugitive. Bucky is an outright fugitive.

    The only official Avenger left active at the end of Endgame is War Machine as near as I can tell (and a wounded Hulk)

    And I don't see either of them rallying one offs like Ant Man, Wasp and Spider Man to reform the team when Rhodey's an active member of the Air Force and Hulk is likely still injured and depressed.

    Black Panther would have a nation to get back to.

    And I don't see Dr. Strange or Rescue even entertaining the idea of becoming Avengers.

    If they are going to foreshadow the Fantastic Four this is the time to do it.

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    Set them expectations for the engineer low. Like real low

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Set them expectations for the engineer low. Like real low
    Inorite? Like that whole “subplot” is freakin’ pointless. I was angry.

    But then that ending.

    Stay tuned for the mid-credits scene, too.
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    Well that answers one big question

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    That ending and mid credit. Had to watch that last bit again. Is it next Friday already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Inorite? Like that whole “subplot” is freakin’ pointless. I was angry.

    But then that ending.

    Stay tuned for the mid-credits scene, too.
    Don't have time to rewatch right now. Did they 100% state that that person was the engineer and not just a friend delivering the vehicle? Holding out hope the actually engineer will appear later. But yea kinda annoyed.

    Everything else in this epsidoe was amazing. Can't wait till next week.

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    Wow that theme at the end was catchy as heck, and after this episode where does anyone here fall on the question on whether or not Pietro is an imposter or not? After this episode I’m leaning on it being really him from the Fox X-Men universe but he’s being controlled/manipulated by you-know-who.
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    Why the heck did Monica call her contact 'he' then? Very irritated, this was evidently done to drum up speculation about Reed (or maybe Ben) turning up. Unless they're showing up later.

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    Monica becoming Spectrum is pretty awesome, as is the Agatha reveal, though I am sad it doesn't look like Mephisto or Nightmare is involved with this after all, unless of course she's working for one of them. I was thinking Anges was Nightmare and Pietro was Mephisto and they were both tryimg to control Wanda. Also I hope the twins are okay!

    The two TV cards for this episode are awesome, as is the use of the advert in how it makes Wanda take the pills. You can tell how the adverts have been made by Anges to tell Wanda what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    Why the heck did Monica call her contact 'he' then? Very irritated, this was evidently done to drum up speculation about Reed (or maybe Ben) turning up. Unless they're showing up later.
    Actually, when referring to her contact, she says "my guy" (or something like that) which many Americans use to refer to a person of either gender. I think I read somewhere that the Spanish subtitles specifically used a female pronoun though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midvillian1322 View Post
    Set them expectations for the engineer low. Like real low
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    Inorite? Like that whole “subplot” is freakin’ pointless. I was angry.

    But then that ending.

    Stay tuned for the mid-credits scene, too.
    Yea I Really don’t think we have seen The “ Engineer” just yet, they just felt like a military delivery service here.

    I feel that is just a taste of early vehicles he can do. If it does turn out to be Reed it could be an early taste of the Fantasticar and vehicles down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
    Why the heck did Monica call her contact 'he' then? Very irritated, this was evidently done to drum up speculation about Reed (or maybe Ben) turning up. Unless they're showing up later.

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    Monica becoming Spectrum is pretty awesome, as is the Agatha reveal, though I am sad it doesn't look like Mephisto or Nightmare is involved with this after all, unless of course she's working for one of them. I was thinking Anges was Nightmare and Pietro was Mephisto and they were both tryimg to control Wanda. Also I hope the twins are okay!

    The two TV cards for this episode are awesome, as is the use of the advert in how it makes Wanda take the pills. You can tell how the adverts have been made by Anges to tell Wanda what to do.
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    I think one lesson we have learned from this show is never take all at face and word value, I feel this reveal is just the entry especially with THAT book around!
    "By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJStriker View Post
    I think one lesson we have learned from this show is never take all at face and word value, I feel this reveal is just the entry especially with THAT book around!
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    Yeah was that the Darkhold again or something else? I didn't recognize it.
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    Thought this was a nice list of possible options for 'The Engineer' (Reed unsurprisingly being at no 1)

    https://interestingengineering.com/9...arvel-universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Metaltron View Post
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    Yeah was that the Darkhold again or something else? I didn't recognize it.
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    Thought this was a nice list of possible options for 'The Engineer' (Reed unsurprisingly being at no 1)

    https://interestingengineering.com/9...arvel-universe
    That is the High Speculations right now talk so far, but also someone made a Reference it was on Agents of SHIELD too?!

    Have not seen the show, so be interesting if it was and what if anything might come of that.

    It is nice that lists are like that and while Yea Monica could have been talking about a Guy or a Girl as the Engineer, I am not convinced that any in the Military escort was that person. They where just the Delivery team for it, so hopefully that is the case. I like to think this an early prototyle of Space Vechiles when SWORD was about space and it be a lead to Reed and maybe Ben too.

    Be cool, big leap but it be Great if that was so.

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