X of Swords: Creation #1 Spoiler Thread: "That is not a nice woman"

[Beetle]

I mean yeah but let's be real solicitations are already out for post X of Swords we already know the X people win and with ressurection everyone is safe what are the "real" stakes, nothing honestly.

What were the "real" stakes of Empyre?

[butterflykyss]

I think Genesis won against Annihilation and took on her mantle. I dont imagine her children would follow her killer.

[JB]

thats the case for nearly every major event. The heroes win 95% of the time. Who goes into a story expecting them to actualy lose? Thats never really been a deterring factor from the enjoyment we get. The journey to get to the end is what we read the books for

Agreed. It's about the journey, Journey.

[Journey]

thats the case for nearly every major event. The heroes win 95% of the time. Who goes into a story expecting them to actualy lose? Thats never really been a deterring factor from the enjoyment we get. The journey to get to the end is what we read the books for

Yeah but even with the typical Marvel event their's a chance for lasting affects prime example death that element is completely removed from all X-Books so their's nothing to worry about, it's pure gain and added lore for the x-people. Which is fine but doesn't negate my point theirs no real stakes. *shrugs* Not saying it's bad.

[loke13]

I mean yeah but let's be real solicitations are already out for post X of Swords we already know the X people win and with ressurection everyone is safe what are the "real" stakes, nothing honestly.

We actually don't know that Resurrection is safe there keeping intentionally vague about that as well as who survived the event and what consequence is the event actually have.

Not to mention the Golden Rule solicitations lie. Adrian is very much anti spoilers I'm pretty sure he's not going to let the solicitations ruin the ending to his (and Tini's) story.

[Dipter]

I think Genesis won against Annihilation and took on her mantle. I dont imagine her children would follow her killer.

For sure. Genesis was "killed" by Annihilation in the same way that Anakin Skywalker was "killed" by Darth Vader.

[Woozie]

We know that some of the 10 survive, we don't definitively know if all do.

[butterflykyss]

For sure. Genesis was "killed" by Annihilation in the same way that Anakin Skywalker was "killed" by Darth Vader.

exactly!!!!! i can't believe apocalypse didn't foresee summoner betraying him.

[superjosh]

Loved the issue! It was so great to see some characters that haven't had any time in the spotlight. I now see what Tini has been planning in Excalibur and I appreciate the diligent work. I will have to agree with chief12d that it does however expose her shortcomings as a writer. Excalibur is a jumbled mess with very little characterization and just a collection of things happening.

But I just love how much Tini and JHickman have incorporated into the story. I was wondering if Tarot would get a mention and they did not disappoint! Also, S.W.O.R.D!!! Just brilliant!!!

Also, Pepe using Rachel's new uniform but ignoring Lorna's was a good call.

I'm a little apprehensive of this being about a tournament, but I'm sure it'll be deeper than that. Excited for more!

Her mask was off. They smushed.

JUST LOL

[loke13]

Yeah but even with the typical Marvel event their's a chance for lasting affects prime example death that element is completely removed from all X-Books so their's nothing to worry about, it's pure gain and added lore for the x-people. Which is fine but doesn't negate my point theirs no real stakes. *shrugs* Not saying it's bad.

Death in the Marvel Comics is literally a revolving door. There weren't that many "stakes" to begin with if you were a popular character that was killed off chances are you'd be brought back in a year or two.

But that's kind of beside the point because the in story "steaks" are the fact that the bad guys are a threat to the entire multiverse at this point.

[loke13]

exactly!!!!! i can't believe apocalypse didn't foresee summoner betraying him.

Looks like Summoner found Apocalypse's "weakness" his love for his family!

[Psycwave]

I mean yeah but let's be real solicitations are already out for post X of Swords we already know the X people win and with ressurection everyone is safe what are the "real" stakes, nothing honestly.

We've only seen three or four characters involved event on the covers for December. Folks can die plus the change in trajectory of character motivations. Will Betsy stay Cap B? Will Monet become the new Omniversal Majestrix? Does that mean Saturnyne falls? What happens to Otherworld in the midst of this war/contest? etc etc. There's stakes even if they don't fall directly with the immediate threat or someone dying.

[loke13]

My question is how why on earth did Saturnyne want the X-Men to reactivate SWORD?

Also I love how Hickman turned Saturnyne into a 4D chess player in just one issue where ass and Excalibur she comes off as a petulant child constantly being outsmarted by apocalypse.

[Glio]

What were the "real" stakes of Empyre?

The Earth could have been destroyed, you can never know (lol).

[Havok83]

Yeah but even with the typical Marvel event their's a chance for lasting affects prime example death that element is completely removed from all X-Books so their's nothing to worry about, it's pure gain and added lore for the x-people. Which is fine but doesn't negate my point theirs no real stakes. *shrugs* Not saying it's bad.

But how do you know the status quo will stay the same? Psycwave listed some points that are worth noting. The only possible change to come out of a story isnt a person's death