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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Sphere View Post
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    As folks have mentioned, bits and pieces of this will be adapted into the MCU. But the comics are going to snap back to the status quo, I just hope to god they drop the misery porn once things revert.
    If they would introduce Genosha, i could imagine them intigrating elements from the current Nation of Krakoa into it once it's taken over by Magneto or a similar well meaning but radical mutant leader.
    At which point a less continuity reliant version of the current story could be used.

    After all, Genosha was original based on exploiting the powers of mutants for economic power. Combining the power of different mutants for certain productions would be a logical part of such an industry.
    Which is similar in concept to how the Five operate as replication service or how Krakoa seems to copy the powers of mutants to create all the bio-tech like the drug production and wormhole gates, the mutants are now using. Only in this case willingly.

    Side note.
    I also hope that the current status quo, once it ends and everything breaks down, won't be another shovel on the misery pile of the X-men and marvel mutant.

    It would allready be nice to at least get a look into a possibly future where mutants did become the majority and normal humans the minority and a stable (if not without still existing frictions) form of co-existence has been achieved.
    Even if it wouldn't be the defacto future of the marvel universe, it would at least give a sense of hope that such a future is possible to be achievable and not every future has to be Days of Future Past, x2/x3 (Moira's 6th and 9th life), Bishop's or Cable's.

    It could be argued that the role of super heros, which includes the X-men, is not to make their world better than reality, but to prevent it from getting worse via the same super natural nature of their world that creates them in first place. In that regard the role of the hero is not to prevent but endure the fights the writers throw at them.
    But in all of that there needs to be some ray of hope, that the next day will be better, that the world is worth saving. For the mutants of the marvel universe the last 20 years seem to have been focused on clouding anything like that. So it's about time that ray shows up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkingdom View Post
    Could be an Ant-man type situation, where they accidentally invade/got sent to an Avengers base or interrupt an Avengers mission and get mistaken for an enemy.
    Exactly, not difficult to see how they might do this. Marvel loves heroes in-fighting, whatever the pretext.
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    I mean a thinly veiled excuse to make the heroes fight is kind of team up standard procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    I mean a thinly veiled excuse to make the heroes fight is kind of team up standard procedure.
    Yep, Whedon’s Avengers got to it pretty quick, and Civil War centered on hero vs hero.
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    One things for sure with the MCU X-Men: they're getting suits. Specifically Wolverine.

    (I'm still pissed they finally had full on costumes at the end of Apocalypse and then IMMEDIATELY threw them out for 20 dollar jackets in Dark Phoenix)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    One things for sure with the MCU X-Men: they're getting suits. Specifically Wolverine.

    (I'm still pissed they finally had full on costumes at the end of Apocalypse and then IMMEDIATELY threw them out for 20 dollar jackets in Dark Phoenix)
    FoX-Men: one step forward, several steps back.
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    Ironically Fox would probably be most positioned to do a more straight adaptation of Hickmans stuff: the "multiple timelines" could have been used to explain the constant continuity issues, like how literally every time they show Wolverines origin it's completely inconsistent with each other time it's depicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Ironically Fox would probably be most positioned to do a more straight adaptation of Hickmans stuff: the "multiple timelines" could have been used to explain the constant continuity issues, like how literally every time they show Wolverines origin it's completely inconsistent with each other time it's depicted.
    They never would've thought of it though.
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    I just think that in the hands of writers less talented than Hickman it runs the risk of being a crutch rather than an interesting storytelling element.

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    I think all of Hickman’s run will end up in the MCU. Tbe X-Men cannot work as regular superheroes. If you do that they are the mutant Avengers or poor man’s Avengers.

    Hickman was hires today to reconceptualize the X-Men after Kevin Feige was given complete creative control of Marvel, including the comics. All of what Hickman is doing is to provide the basis for X-Men MCU.

    In fact if they are all on an island, it explains why haven’t been seen. Their telepaths could have erased knowledge of mutants from the general population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    I just think that in the hands of writers less talented than Hickman it runs the risk of being a crutch rather than an interesting storytelling element.
    Disney has enough money to handle good writers. Especially with the XMen coming to MCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunty View Post

    Side note.
    I also hope that the current status quo, once it ends and everything breaks down, won't be another shovel on the misery pile of the X-men and marvel mutant.

    It would allready be nice to at least get a look into a possibly future where mutants did become the majority and normal humans the minority and a stable (if not without still existing frictions) form of co-existence has been achieved.
    Even if it wouldn't be the defacto future of the marvel universe, it would at least give a sense of hope that such a future is possible to be achievable and not every future has to be Days of Future Past, x2/x3 (Moira's 6th and 9th life), Bishop's or Cable's.
    I'm also very nervous that the next status quo tagline is going to be "More hated and feared than ever!"

    With regards to a future where mutants became the majority, I would check out the anime/ manga My Hero Academia for an idea of what that would look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    I think all of Hickman’s run will end up in the MCU. Tbe X-Men cannot work as regular superheroes. If you do that they are the mutant Avengers or poor man’s Avengers.

    Hickman was hires today to reconceptualize the X-Men after Kevin Feige was given complete creative control of Marvel, including the comics. All of what Hickman is doing is to provide the basis for X-Men MCU.

    In fact if they are all on an island, it explains why haven’t been seen. Their telepaths could have erased knowledge of mutants from the general population.
    I sure hope not, we haven't had a good take on the team (or specifically Cyclops, Storm, Jean, etc.) and I don't want this version of the characters to be the predominant interpretation of casual/general audiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    I'm also very nervous that the next status quo tagline is going to be "More hated and feared than ever!"

    With regards to a future where mutants became the majority, I would check out the anime/ manga My Hero Academia for an idea of what that would look like.
    Yeah, MHA is pretty awesome, and while I think it's the logical end point of the X-Men, if they went that route then the remaining humans would be the oppressed minority.
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    A non-Krakoa method they could do that would be different than the Fox version: introduce the idea of mutants individually, but the X-Men as a team don't exist yet. Like have Firestar and Iceman in Spidey 3 or something. Kinda like what they're currently doing with the Young Avengers.

    Though if we're looking at Homecoming as a blueprint, they might just want to skip any kind of origin stuff. Though having mutants exist and then doing X-Men would be different than, say, First Class. Peyton Reeds FF pitch also involved skipping the actual origin part (and if they're giving him Kang for Ant-Man 3 it makes me think they're at least involving him in the FF stuff).
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