Liefeld has some thoughts

[deus ex]

Who would have guessed back in the early 90s.. that come 2020 Liefeld would be on the same page as Claremont in hating the current stuff! I actually agree with a Claremont and Liefeld.



This is BS and you know it! There are a lot of legit reasons this current Krakoa stuff is trash! This Hickman stuff isn’t good people.

What has Claremont said about hox/pox/dox?

[Ferro]

he doesnt like it but also says he hasn't read it so moot opinion

[Hizashi]

he doesnt like it but also says he hasn't read it so moot opinion

So just the concept? Does anyone have links to comments he might've made?

[Woozie]

Claremont never really gave any clear feelings, I think someone told him something about the current run that he called nonsense and that's as far as it goes.

Had to do with some relationship.

[Hizashi]

Claremont never really gave any clear feelings, I think someone told him something about the current run that he called nonsense and that's as far as it goes.

Had to do with some relationship.

Oh, ok. Well, there are many relationships right now that could be called nonsense.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Liefeld also went on a rant a while back because Deadpool 3 got put on the backburner after the Fox merger, so there's a pretty substantial history of "old man yells at cloud" when the era that he got his big start in gets shafted/looks like it's being shafted/isnt the main status quo

[H-E-D]

Yeah I don't mind Hickman's new take but inferencing that people who aren't fans of a massive, line-wide overhaul to the status quo just don't like it because of hangups with actual, real life minorities is ridiculous.

People are like that all the time, though.

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

Time travel ****. Future babies coming to the present. XTREME manliness. 90s reverence.

I reject Liefeld's vision of the X-Men.

Like a kidney stone...hard pass.

[Glio]

It would be easier to say "What does Claremont like that Claremont didn't write?"

You have fingers left on one hand.

[cranger]

Time travel ****. Future babies coming to the present. XTREME manliness. 90s reverence.

Sounds right up Hickman's alley.

[Hizashi]

Sounds right up Hickman's alley.

At least the first two, right? Not sure about the last two...

[Stormrocks]

As a comic reader who started and in 90's and grew the love the team during the time, and a kid who watched the 90's cartoon religiously and will still watch an episode or 2 on Disney Plus every now and then, I have to say I really appreciate the heart and nostalgia from that time era.

That said, I haven't been this excited to read, (and buy), comics since Claremont's X-Treme X-Men. What Hickman is doing is exciting and fun and brings some energy back to to the X-Men comics.

Liefeld's tweet implies the X-Men's creative team doesn't know the characters. I disagree. Hickman's know the characters and is moving the whole franchise forward.

[anyajenkins]

At least the first two, right? Not sure about the last two...

He does favor powerful, egotistical alpha males with violent streaks, (apocalypse, magneto, sinister, etc...) that rather fits.

[Hizashi]

He does favor powerful, egotistical alpha males with violent streaks, (apocalypse, magneto, sinister, etc...) that rather fits.

Oh, I guess I just define manliness differently.

Well, if that's the case then I hope he leaves certain X-Men out of that interpretation.

[ChronoRogue]

He does favor powerful, egotistical alpha males with violent streaks, (apocalypse, magneto, sinister, etc...) that rather fits.

While I agree... I don't think it's limited to men since he likes Monet and Emma who possess those characteristics too. Basically egotistical characters in general are fun for him to write I guess.