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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Lies by their very nature are always harmful.
    As a guy who is connected to a culture that worships a person who steals, who lies,... Etc. Sometimes some lies can do more good than the truth in all its glory. So, nope! I don't agree. Consequences matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    As a guy who is connected to a culture that worships a person who steals, who lies,... Etc. Sometimes some lies can do more good than the truth in all its glory. So, nope! I don't agree. Consequences matter.
    Yeah and the consequences of Clark keeping his being Superman a secret while working for the Planet would be a lot more severe if the comics were half realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Lies by their very nature are always harmful.

    Clark secretly being a superpowered vigilante is nothing like being in the closet. Clark's secret affects everyone around him. People who are targeted for being close to Superman. The Daily Planet whose credibility regarding Superman-related stories would be called into question once it becomes known that one of their staffers is Superman and that his wife, who also works for the Daily Planet, knew about it and kept it a secret.

    Whether or not a person wants to talk about their orientation is their business. But when you start playing world police while defrauding a newspaper and by extension the entire world, your privacy becomes the least important.
    Does this really happen a lot though?
    It's not as if Lois and Jimmy aren't weirdness magnets who get caught up in stuff all on their own even before Superman becomes connected to the situation. Since they are also publically close to Superman anyway before they learn the secret, what difference does it make if they or anybody else doesn't know he's also Clark Kent? They are already aware their very public association with him is a possible danger are prepared to take precautions. Signal watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    Does this really happen a lot though?
    It's not as if Lois and Jimmy aren't weirdness magnets who get caught up in stuff all on their own even before Superman becomes connected to the situation. Since they are also publically close to Superman anyway before they learn the secret, what difference does it make if they or anybody else doesn't know he's also Clark Kent? They are already aware their very public association with him is a possible danger are prepared to take precautions. Signal watch?
    Those two might be more of a target but not much changes in general, however, anyone at the Daily Planet or a civilian in the DCU who is a friend of Superman gets the same problem and not everyone can survive death trap on a weekly basis like they can. Pa and Ma Kent would be sitting ducks. I think this happened on Smallville, as soon as the villain of the week figured out who Clark Kent was all his friends and family were put in the crosshairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Yeah and the consequences of Clark keeping his being Superman a secret while working for the Planet would be a lot more severe if the comics were half realistic.
    The daily planet doesn't need to own upto what clark does. They could easily distance themselves. As for superman, he is superman.The only one who would be in trouble is lois. And she deserves some of it cause she is a biased journalist . Superman already faces death every day. Not much of a big deal. Rogue gallery already attack daily planet regardless all the time.

    Moreover, you are just proving my point.Truth will only cause trouble. As long as Clark's truth doesn't get revealed he would be alright. Proving that the lie is better alternative . Clark had a right to stay hidden from humanity who would only see him with eyes clouded by hate and fear. As a vigilante, he was able to channel that to make statements and to help those that are in need of it. As clark, he stayed low and lived his life as working class dude.
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    The question is, who does Lois fall in love with first, Superman or Clark Kent?

    Realistically, she has to be an idiot (like Lena is in the Supergirl show) to Not notice Clark and Superman look alike a lot! Especially when she interacts with both upclose. So it depends how she interacts with them. In the old movies, she didn't seem to pay much attention to Clark like she did Superman, but once she starts a romantic relationship and gets really close to his face, she has to notice!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stargazer01 View Post
    The question is, who does Lois fall in love with first, Superman or Clark Kent?
    Do you mean real clark kent or fake one with glasses? Cause its quite straightforward. Lois fell in love with the real deal.

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    He co-worker at the Daily Planet.. whatever that is to you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Well, he's human and full of contradictions. He fights justice as well. Yet, he is a vigilante who breaks laws and cars of molesters .
    He's not human though. The rest of that is right though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magha_regulus View Post
    He's not human though. The rest of that is right though.
    He's human in every way that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magha_regulus View Post
    He's not human though. The rest of that is right though.
    Aliens, gods,monsters... Etc it doesn't matter. They are human as long as there are tangible things that we can connect and relate to them

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    To quote Jerry Seinfeld:

    "I'd say when the nipple makes its first appearance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Before Sex he could literally destroy her during the act seems like that risk should be known.
    Lol I don’t think that’s ever been a thing in the comics. Super powered people can have sex with normals without any problem. Sure “realistically” they couldn’t but an alien who looks exactly like a human except he has powers isn’t a realistic concept to begin with. Ironically the only hero I know of who has had a story where their powers killed their partner thanks to sex is Spider-Man. Radioactive semen, Jesus what were they thinking approving that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magha_regulus View Post
    He's not human though. The rest of that is right though.
    Psychologically he's completely the same as a human, most aliens are in the DCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    The daily planet doesn't need to own upto what clark does. They could easily distance themselves. As for superman, he is superman.The only one who would be in trouble is lois. And she deserves some of it cause she is a biased journalist . Superman already faces death every day. Not much of a big deal. Rogue gallery already attack daily planet regardless all the time.

    Moreover, you are just proving my point.Truth will only cause trouble. As long as Clark's truth doesn't get revealed he would be alright. Proving that the lie is better alternative . Clark had a right to stay hidden from humanity who would only see him with eyes clouded by hate and fear. As a vigilante, he was able to channel that to make statements and to help those that are in need of it. As clark, he stayed low and lived his life as working class dude.
    A lie isn't bad unless you get caught is an amazingly weird take when defending Superman's secret identity. It's the type of logic someone like Lex Luthor would use.

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