The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.
See, I've been wondering if it might be more clever and engaging if MCU Logan, whether played by Jackman or a new actor, is actually kept away from the core X-Men team and either treated more as a solo act or a "Hall of Fame" member who only occasionally goes on missions, and instead have the Wolverine on the main MCU X-Men team be X-23's Wolverine.
Anybody who has to just play Logan is going to be fighting an uphill battle against what's now clearly the definitive superhero portrayal ins a merged franchise that has that original portrayal still present - there's a lot of risk of redundancy and being overshadowed inherent to the premise of just being the "new Logan."
... But being the "new Laura," and having a young female Wolverine on the team with Cyclops, Beast, Nightcrawler, etc., would sidestep that risk, still allow Jackman or someone else to play "Classic" Wolverine, and also maybe defuse any chance of "Wolverine takes over the film again" for other X-Men fans.
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The school never needed to be a giant school(that was Singer's idea, so he could cast tons of kids....). In the comics mutants were very rare, there were only a handful at first. The school should be like that, very private exclusive, small population of actual named characters that we get to know intimately.
I would start with the main squad, go a few movies/D+ series with them, then you can start adding more generations(like the New Mutants). So the X-Men start off as 18-22, by the time their characters are like 22-26, you add in the next crop of students, this time a little younger, 14-18. The main X-Men continue on their adventures, the New Mutants get their shows/movies for a few years, then you have the main X-Men in the 26-30 age range, the New Mutants become X-Force at 18-22, and you can add the Generation X class, again at 14-18.
It's a lot, because the actors will age in real-time, so they'll need their own projects being developed and released pretty closely, but it could work. By the time the main X-Men characters are in the 30-34 age range, you can do the Morrison era stories with the huge class of youngsters being taught by the mature X-Men, but that's honestly the least exciting role for those characters. They thrive as adventurers, not schoolteachers.
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I think Disney is cutting down on those. Most of those shows have not been successful and way too expensive to justify making more. They've said there was an issue of quantity over quality and also how audiences were not happy about needing to watch multiple shows in order to understand a movie.
I feel like the only Wolverine fan who doesn't really care about the upcoming Deadpool/Wolverine flick. I've more than said how I feel about Jackman's portrayal of the character(and it has nothing to do with height). Saw an interview with the creators of X-Men 97 about how they would love to do an animated feature film and definitely feel that's the best direction to go going forward.
I guess it also depends on exactly when The Wolverine is set? If its set around 2007/08 (based on Yukio's line that she's been trying to find Logan for "over a year"), then you can argue that Logan didn't stick around at the Mansion for long after The Last Stand, which seemingly negates his ending in that movie. If its set in 2013 however, then its possible that Logan spent years with the team before leaving.
Also, in The Last Stand, Xavier was already seeing Storm as his potential successor, rather than Scott, since the latter was still mourning Jean. But Logan is also viewed as an important member of the team, which is why he's at the meeting where they all discuss the Cure. In fact, arguably, Storm and Logan are the X-men for most of the film, with Scott initially out of commission and then dead. Hank then rejoins the team later in the film, and Bobby, Peter and Kitty are the new recruits who get to step up.
The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.
The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.
The X-Men aside, I'm just very curious to see how they deliver on the concept of mutants in the MCU. Granted there were there a few here and there like Namor, some of their X-gene's activated through manipulation like Wanda and Pietro, but how do you present them fully into Earth 616?
I just hope they go with Hulk's snap and not make it too hokey.
The movies and Disney+ model is actually genius as it allows for greater character exploration in the shows longer run times, and greater spectacle in the movies. The only problem was after the first group(WandaVision/Falcon&theWinterSoldier/Loki), they starting leaning into completely new characters without the movie connections (and then the shows just had horrible writing and overall were just rushed to fill spots in the new service as dictated by Disney). Given how strong X-Men '97 has been, I think the model is ripe for the picking, they just needed great stories. X-Men has PLENTY of stories, and if you get a good team of creators to mine that IP effectively, the shows could be incredible and tie back in to the movies seamlessly.
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We could see it as early as a postcredits scene in Deadpool imo
There was a big issue with the tv shows going severely over budget between covid reshoots/cgi/getting big name actors like Samuel Jackson like 212 million on Secret Invasion. But of course less and/or cheaper Disney+ shows don't mean no Disney+ shows and they'll definitely be a mutant one in the future
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The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.
My prefered way is the x-gene kicks in when nature deems it needed. It has been happening very very rarely through history (so you could still have old mutants like Apocalyps, Selene, Exodus, and such) and groups like SHIELD and other agencies did everything they could to cover it up. With the sheer amount of chaos the Infinity Stones caused and the amount of cosmic power it released on Earth the x-gene kicked into high gear all over the world causing more and more mutants to be activated. That would also give them a good reason why most of the mutants showing up are under 30 because that would make them about the right age (young teens/preteens) when the Infinity Stones were active on Earth.
The Snap/Blip could also be used as the main catalyzing event for an "outbreak" of mutants on strictly a stress level, and for conspiracy theories against and about them in the MCU blaming them for the chaos and the trauma.
Plus, with Hydra infiltrating SHIELD for much of the MCU's history, making them hostile to mutants, or controlling of them, gets a lot easier, and could even allow someone like Sinister to be operating already in the background.
I would add, though, that I think there needs to be a clear shift in the MCU towards government forces leaning more antagonistic than before, using stuff like Ross becoming President, and a clear sign that since the MCU humans have experienced so much already, even the little nuance of "Enhanced individuals are the result of programs and forces that someone is in charge of, but mutants are spontaneous and uncontrolled" as the basis for why anti-mutant hysteria could be a thing.
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