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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    I haven't checked out WW in a while, are Diana, Steve and Siegfried a throuple now? Good for them.
    Steve and Siegfried are currently bro roommates, which has been basically fish-out-of-water comedy shtick to this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianne View Post
    I took a risk with this comic and not only did I enjoy it and have fun like when I was a child, but the whole Wonderdon part was fantastic, I hope they continue on that path with this character.

    Original idea for WW was apparently a Pteranodon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Original idea for WW was apparently a Pteranodon.
    Looks like a Triceratops, not a Pteradon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Looks like a Triceratops, not a Pteradon.
    Yeah, like I said the original idea was for a Pteranodon before the artist decided a Triceratops worked better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Yeah, like I said the original idea was for a Pteranodon before the artist decided a Triceratops worked better.
    Ah.

    But maybe... the Pteradon was a better idea since Dianasaurus could then glide on air currents.....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianne View Post
    I took a risk with this comic and not only did I enjoy it and have fun like when I was a child, but the whole Wonderdon part was fantastic, I hope they continue on that path with this character.

    Yeah I thought Jurassic League ruled, can’t wait for this version of the Trinity to meet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Ah.

    But maybe... the Pteradon was a better idea since Dianasaurus could then glide on air currents.....?
    Yeah but Triceratops > Pteranodon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Yeah, like I said the original idea was for a Pteranodon before the artist decided a Triceratops worked better.
    I was googling the Triceratops to find some relation to the name of WonderDON, even the dinosaur version of Hippolyta speaks of themselves as the 'DONS', and I couldn't find anything.
    I am far from knowing anything or being a dinosaur specialist beyond the Jurassic Park movie, so I was left with the doubt.
    Will this be the explanation? Because she rides a PterodnoDON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Yeah but Triceratops > Pteranodon.
    Lol, true, Triceratops is a much stronger dinosaur form than a Pteradon, and I guess more appropriate overall for Dianasaurus.
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    I don't know how The World's Finest fits into canon, but the origin of clay here is very clear.


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    Waid and Mora are doing the Lord's work.

    On multiple fronts, but specifically for the clay birth right now.

    This is meant to be in continuity. Between this and Cloonrad having Altuum reference it, maybe the higher ups are getting more lax on this?

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    Nice to see clay origin references.

    Less great is the suggestion she can be reverted back with ease, which is what gives rise to the golem nonsense. Diana is flesh and blood and rando villains shouldn't be able to just undo that.


    Why does Wonder Woman have to show up in other characters' books? Nothing good ever happens when she shares space with Superman, Batman, and the Justice League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_McNichts View Post
    Nice to see clay origin references.

    Less great is the suggestion she can be reverted back with ease, which is what gives rise to the golem nonsense. Diana is flesh and blood and rando villains shouldn't be able to just undo that.


    Why does Wonder Woman have to show up in other characters' books? Nothing good ever happens when she shares space with Superman, Batman, and the Justice League.
    I guess they want it to be her "kryptonite".
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    Which also demonstrates, not just a failure to understand Diana's origin, but also fails to understand mythology (human being being made flesh and blood out of clay or dirt is a recurring thing in many cultures, including Greek and the goddamn Bible), AND doesn't understand golems and what they were.

    It almost feels like spite from DC. "Oh, you want the clay origin back? Fine...she's a golem and can get reverted to mud or crumble to dust at any moment! Happy?"


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    And how the hell does the freaking LASSO turn to mud?!

    Mark Waid once said he didn't understand how to write Wonder Woman in Kingdom Come. Twenty-six years later...STILL DOESN'T!
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    I've gotten so used to bad WW appearances in other books that this doesn't even register to me as being especially bad.

    Yeah, it can be annoying, but this is the same series that has the Big Bad turn Superman into a liability in the first issue by having him injected with Red Kryptonite and go on a chaotic rampage as his body mutates and powers fluctuate. And Hal makes his first appearance in this series after getting brainwashed off page.

    And Waid loves and gets both of those characters, and wrote Diana fine in his canon JLA run (at least nothing stands out as terrible), so this isn't worth getting too bothered about, IMO.

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