Wonder Woman - General Discussion

[Sebastianne]

Oh that's from Wonder Woman #73 right? I don't recall that mention but you were right. Although that's from a mirror dimension, so at least issue #787 is a step forward by being in the real world

Yes, but the Chi dimension implies that every action of the Queen would be reflected darkly by the Empress as a form of Queen Hippolyta's self-knowledge.
If Hippolyta had been pregnant by Zeus, the Empress would have had to have an abortion, instead she makes explicit about the clay figure as a reflection of that reality in our dimension, it works for me ha ha.
By the way I love the concept of the Chi Dimension.

[Alpha]

As do I. And I love that Hippolyta is the one that created it

[HestiasHearth]

It can feel a bit strange if she's literally still clay.

Also, weird that Alchemy seemed to have more trouble zapping Batman than he did Diana.

That is not weird at all. Of the Trinity, Batman's one true weakness, his kryptonite, his "youcanberevertedtoclaybyanyoldrando" gimmick is...none. He will always be the comic book character that can do anything, accomplish anything, beat anybody, and win everything. His one true superpower is his being intensely loved by so many writers and by so many powerful people in the comic book industry.

[Gaius]

Congrats to Jen Bartel

Eisner nominees for Best Cover Artist

Jen Bartel, Future State Immortal Wonder Woman #1 & 2, Wonder Woman Black & Gold #1, Wonder Woman 80th Anniversary (DC); Women's History Month variant covers (Marvel)
David Mack, Norse Mythology (Dark Horse)
Bruno Redondo, Nightwing (DC)
Alex Ross, Black Panther, Captain America, Captain America/Iron Man #2, Immortal Hulk, Iron Man, The U.S. of The Marvels (Marvel)
Julian Totino Tedesco, Just Beyond: Monstrosity (BOOM!/KaBoom!); Dune: House Atreides (BOOM! Studios); Action Comics (DC); The Walking Dead Deluxe (Image Skybound)
Yoshi Yoshitani, I Am Not Starfire (DC); The Blue Flame, Giga, Witchblood (Vault)

[Guy_McNichts]

Why are people using the word golem like it's a bad thing?

Creators believing Diana is a golem was how we got "she's not human and needs a father." I'm almost certain Azzarello used the word golem at some point while justifying why Zeus should be her father.

And again, it's a misunderstanding of myth and golems. Golems were literal moving clay.

[Gaius]

Written by KENNY PORTER
Art and cover by BALDEMAR RIVAS
Variant cover by DAN MORA
1:25 variant cover by RICARDO LOPEZ ORTIZ
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[Garrac]

Well, that is f*cking sexy

[Sebastianne]

Some covers with WW from August solicitations.

Voidsong #3


DCeased, i think


Beautiful Wonderdon

[Sebastianne]

Catwoman Lonely City #4 , nice reference by Chiang


Bendis' nosense


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[Gaius]

WONDER WOMAN BY GEORGE PÉREZ OMNIBUS (2022 EDITION)

Written by GEORGE PÉREZ and LEN WEIN
Art by GEORGE PÉREZ, BRUCE PATTERSON, and others
Cover by GEORGE PÉREZ
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WONDER WOMAN: THE GOLDEN AGE OMNIBUS VOL. 5

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Art by HARRY G. PETER and others
Cover by IRWIN HASEN and BERNARD SACHS
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The Golden Age of Wonder Woman is continued in this omnibus collecting stories from the late 1940s and early 1950s! Beautiful as Aphrodite, wise as Athena, and swifter than Mercury, Princess Diana of Themyscira refuses to believe that anyone in a democracy is unimportant, or not worth saving! Join the classic heroine as she takes on villains and thrills in the name of justice. This omnibus collects stories from Wonder Woman #35-47 and Sensation Comics #90-104.

[John Venus]

I know it's been done. But I hate it because, again, it's what leads to the "Wonder Woman is a golem" thing.

What have you got against golems?

EDIT: wait, nvm you already answered it.

Anyway I agree that it shouldn't be easy for a villain to revert Diana to clay.

[Stanlos]

I don't understand how the Golem thing even got started. She was never animated clay or whatever. She literally was brought to life. She's no more golem than you or I given the many Adam and Pandora style myths. Maybe its a sort of mental resistance born of a desire for the primacy of JudeoChristian faiths. That was the one negative I had for Byrne's GODS AND GODDESSES and one of the negatives for the Perez reboot.

[wonder39]

Why are people using the word golem like it's a bad thing?

Well, it's not accurate in Diana's case. With the clay birth, she is sculpted of clay and that clay is brought to life ( as in flesh and bone. Made human ) by the Goddess (es).... It's the Greek creation story. The story of Galateia.

A golem is an animated mud figure. No brain of its own. Animated and controlled by a spell and it's caster.

So it's basically inaccurate and derogatory.

[John Venus]

I don't understand how the Golem thing even got started. She was never animated clay or whatever. She literally was brought to life. She's no more golem than you or I given the many Adam and Pandora style myths. Maybe its a sort of mental resistance born of a desire for the primacy of JudeoChristian faiths. That was the one negative I had for Byrne's GODS AND GODDESSES and one of the negatives for the Perez reboot.

Geoff Johns started it during the lead up to Infinite Crisis. That Diana was 'unrelatable' because she didn't have a secret identity and wasn't born like the others. And if you read stuff like the ending of 'Blackest Night', he does have a Judeo Christian centric outlook (even if it's subconscious). Though it's not just him, a lot of creators put the Abrahamic God above every other fictional God, even Marvel does it. It's understandable why some fans have PTSD over any implication of Diana being a 'golem' or centered around a villain taking advantage of her clay birth. Both Zeus and Odin end up treated as *the* God in many adaptations. The recent WW arc is one of the rare times that Odin is treated as he is in mythology; a trickster, a traveler, a troll bearing wisdom.

[Stanlos]

Well, it's not accurate in Diana's case. With the clay birth, she is sculpted of clay and that clay is brought to life ( as in flesh and bone. Made human ) by the Goddess (es).... It's the Greek creation story. The story of Galateia.

A golem is an animated mud figure. No brain of its own. Animated and controlled by a spell and it's caster.

So it's basically inaccurate and derogatory.

Exactly! If only they had better control of that prior to all those bizarre JLA PRIMEVAL type specials began to take it out of bounds