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    I'm kind of curious if we will ever see the clay origin again. Did editors hate it that much and is the Zeus origin that popular now

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    I doubt we'll see it made her "main origin" again.

    That's said, I have my doubts that's popular enough where if a popular adaptation (like a reboot or in the video game) didn't use Daddy Zeus that people would complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    I doubt we'll see it made her "main origin" again.

    That's said, I have my doubts that's popular enough where if a popular adaptation (like a reboot or in the video game movie) didn't use Daddy Zeus that people would complain.
    What a move it would be if her game went with her clay origin AND it was a good video game too
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterwitcher88 View Post
    What a move it would be if her game went with her clay origin AND it was a good video game too
    Dare to dream.

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    WW vs. Mary Marvel


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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
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    I will say, even though Sacrafice is a favorite arc of mine, how Bruce/Clark treated Diana afterwards always annoyed me. Also a shae that Rucka wasnt given the chance to properly end it how he had planned




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    Well, Bruce is a scumbag who--based on how he treats and regards her--clearly despises Diana.

    He might not think he does. He might believe he cares about her, but actions speak louder than words. And Bruce's actions toward Diana mean more than the occasional platitude like this:

    Diana should use the Lasso because I don't believe he means what he says for one goddamn second. She's just too nice to call him out on it.

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    Yeah, lousy story that pretty much derailed the more interesting stuff in Rucka's run and WW as a character/franchise for years. Look at how WW84 decided Max "The Bore" Lord the main villain over an actual WW villain.

    I always throw those pages back in the face of people who like to pretend Bruce and Clark are true friends of Diana. Unless writers are making her a cheerleader for them, that mostly sums up how DC treats WW vis-à-vis "The World's Finest"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Yeah, lousy story that pretty much derailed the more interesting stuff in Rucka's run and WW as a character/franchise for years. Look at how WW84 decided Max "The Bore" Lord the main villain over an actual WW villain.

    I always throw those pages back in the face of people who like to pretend Bruce and Clark are true friends of Diana. Unless writers are making her a cheerleader for them, that mostly sums up how DC treats WW vis-à-vis "The World's Finest"
    I still think Max worked for what the movie was going for, but I understand wanting more Cheetah.

    I mean, every character has their badly written points. I don't hold it against them any more than Warrior Woman Diana.

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    Amazons Attack is what really derailed what Rucka could've given us and WW84s adaption of Max was....underwhelming imo. Just as BoPs adaption of Cassandra was underwhelming. JL:Mortal had a much better role for Max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I still think Max worked for what the movie was going for, but I understand wanting more Cheetah.
    There's like three other actual WW villains they could have used over him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I mean, every character has their badly written points. I don't hold it against them any more than Warrior Woman Diana.
    When the worst versions of WW usually involve her personally getting rewritten to benefit them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    I will say, even though Sacrafice is a favorite arc of mine, how Bruce/Clark treated Diana afterwards always annoyed me. Also a shae that Rucka wasnt given the chance to properly end it how he had planned



    I still find it hard to believe Rucka was a WonderBat shipper. I know Sacrifice was butchered by DC editorial, and Batman and Superman weren't supposed to be terrible friends to Diana, but his first Wonder Woman story ever had Bruce be such a total freaking nark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
    I still find it hard to believe Rucka was a WonderBat shipper. I know Sacrifice was butchered by DC editorial, and Batman and Superman weren't supposed to be terrible friends to Diana, but his first Wonder Woman story ever had Bruce be such a total freaking nark.
    There's even a scene in Rucka's run where Alfred makes a snide remark about him helping Diana solve a murder case because he has the hots for her which Bruce shoots down with "not every relationship between the opposite sex has to be about romance".

    I mean, maybe he does but he's way more subtle about it than others who want WW to cheerlead for Supes and Bats.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    There's like three other actual WW villains they could have used over him.
    I'm not saying there wasn't, just that in the context of his use I think it worked.
    When the worst versions of WW usually involve her personally getting rewritten to benefit them...
    Well, it goes the other way around too though? Like Batman and Superman coming off unlikable and uncompromising in the context of a WW narrative where the readers would obviously side more with Diana.

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