“Strength is the lot of but a few privileged men; but austere perseverance, harsh and continuous, may be employed by the smallest of us and rarely fails of its purpose, for its silent power grows irresistibly greater with time.” Goethe
He figured their plant technology would
A) oppen the door for a new kind of sentinels
B) make Krakoa's drugs less attractive (as this nation could also develop some effective medicine)
Beast acted like USA when some latin america nation becomes socialist or communist: mess them up in case they might turn into a threat.
When the writer said X-Force would be like Krakoa CIA, he was not joking.
Bringing back the old, killing the young: that's the Marvel way
So they are like other countries, communities and families in which there are people who make good and bad choices, are arrogant or humble or just neutral.
When you paint an entire community the same way totally ignoring the reason and context around that community facts will keep getting in your way, they are not excuses.How long will the persecution thing be an excuse for every shady action the mutants will undertake…
Krakoa is not trying to conquer the world, having a place in the goverment economy is not conquering the world neither are they trying to kill off humanity.Originally Posted by Steel inquisitor
They are giving them a chance with the idea of punishing them when they get out of line.
No he wasn´t that´s why I found that ironic and Genosha didn´t get there on it´s own, they used to be a country that used mutants as slaves to run their economy they tried to change but that caused a civil war so the main leaders of different factions were willing to work with Magneto despite his actions with the hope of getting their country out of constant war. I agree the credit should not be to Magneto but he was a factor. Both Magneto and Polaris were also part of the country´s civil war the enemies Magneto was worried with were the previous regime made up of people who were in charge of making slaves of mutants.Originally Posted by Steell Inquisitor
they are both monarchies Attilan also has a goverment body just like WakandaIt's more like Attilan than Wakanda, Wakanda has more mechanisms in place to replace its leaders.
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"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
Magneto: The master of magnetism Appreciation 2022
Polaris: The Mistress of Magnetism Appreciation 2022
House of M Appreciation 2022
Yes God will Damn them all to fiery syphilitic Hell for, after Years of getting stomped on by giant Robots, disenfranchised by their governments, poisoned by an Inhuman cloud, the mutants will DARE have some confidence and swag and pride in their race.
Yall sound just like the "folks" that freaked out about Beyonce's "Black Panther" Super Bowl performance, and Formation video
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I don't know who this would apply to, whether it is Moira, Xavier, or Krakoa as a concept, but the Xavier we thought we knew was all about coexistence. Moira said she had to radicalize him, to do what? She believes coexistence will not work. She believes isolation will not work. She probably believes moving off planet will not work. So what will work? Domination. They are not going to be hiding on Krakoa for the rest of their lives. They tried that. It can be argued that it is about survival or fear, but it could be argued that is actually the motivation behind supremacist thoughts in the first place. So Moira may or may not be a supremacist. Xavier may or may not. But Krakoa, based on the story behind it and what Hickman has laid out as the end goal, well it's existence seems to be about supremacy.
Krakoa is about building community with all it´s lights and shadows that involves. I don´t agree Krakoa´s has left out coexistence per se after all they are still trying to build bridges across nations instead of just inside one country.
I agree Hickman has left some narrative clues about not everything being ok with Krakoa from Moira´s notes to Xavier´s change in pov to the ressurections process etc but this doesn´t mean the idea of the coutuntry itself and of mutants getting together to build something else is evil itself. I think so far Hickman is telling a balanced narrative.
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"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
Magneto: The master of magnetism Appreciation 2022
Polaris: The Mistress of Magnetism Appreciation 2022
House of M Appreciation 2022
Point out the person arguing that all of Krakoa is supremacist. I have already specified that I’m talking about the leadership.
Does it need doing?
Yes.
Then it will be done.
Yes I agree Moira could kind of end being the villain after is all told but so far we have not seen exactly what she wants to do with Krakoa, we know she sees the phalanx as their main enemies but she herself has admited Xavier and Magneto don´t remember everything she told them. So who knows what her plans are beyond Krakoa.
"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
Magneto: The master of magnetism Appreciation 2022
Polaris: The Mistress of Magnetism Appreciation 2022
House of M Appreciation 2022
I never get an answer. Why when a human slaughters mutants is "Not all humans" but when a mutant makes a disgusted comment towards humans then all mutants are dangerous supremacists.
Did you ask that person? They have not even replied to this thread so what answer do you expect. Also, they never said their reasoning was because of what you said. You could be right, but I get the feeling it was a bit tongue in cheek.
Letting Exodus indoctrinate the children of Krakoa might be something they would want to cut down on if they don't agree with his position though.
Wolverine12 is right, these are the best examples of the more extreme mutant views that might qualify as supremacist. The idea that "all of the mutants on Krakoa are mutant supremacist" is a little off I think, especially considering the bigotry mutants have had to deal with. Every other time they've experimented with their own society it has been met with hatred. It makes sense that they're sick of the hate & fear, that this time they aren't taking any chances.
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I don't think you all have the wherewithal to discuss this topic. I mean, Hitler just wanted to fix Germany's economy and protect his people too.
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