Oa - Green Lantern in it's entirety Appreciation Thread

[lemonpeace]

Anyone who claims knowledge of "objective reality" is sus. There are other ways to interpret "objective reality" but this is a *fan* site - objectivity is implicitly not the point of this space. Can you "objectively" deny that Hal has been made the butt of jokes and not featured as prominently since his disappointing movie? (you mention the "past couple decades" just to ignore the shift that happened after the movie - I see that)

LOL you're questioning the concept of objectivity? ya'll not being a serious people anymore with some of this reasoning. I mentioned last couple decades because since the 2000s DC has shifted to pushing Hal as the face of the Green Lantern hard but hey man, you got me! you know what, you just said you find the concept of "objectivity" and "reality" sus so sure my guy, y'all should be outraged. in fact, DC's actually planning to take all you guys's Hal Jordans away and replacing them with actual whoopie cushions.

[Frontier]

LOL you're questioning the concept of objectivity? ya'll not being a serious people anymore with some of this reasoning. I mentioned last couple decades because since the 2000s DC has shifted to pushing Hal as the face of the Green Lantern hard but hey man, you got me! you know what, you just said you find the concept of "objectivity" and "reality" sus so sure my guy, y'all should be outraged. in fact, DC's actually planning to take all you guys's Hal Jordans away and replacing them with actual whoopie cushions.

They should do dakimakura's with all the Earth Lanterns .

[lemonpeace]

They should do dakimakura's with all the Earth Lanterns .

goddamit, it gotta stop making jokes that end up leading to amazing things i want but can never have

[j9ac9k]

LOL you're questioning the concept of objectivity? ya'll not being a serious people anymore with some of this reasoning. I mentioned last couple decades because since the 2000s DC has shifted to pushing Hal as the face of the Green Lantern hard but hey man, you got me! you know what, you just said you find the concept of "objectivity" and "reality" sus so sure my guy, y'all should be outraged. in fact, DC's actually planning to take all you guys's Hal Jordans away and replacing them with actual whoopie cushions.

Bottom line: why are you trying to tell people how to feel? I don't think he's going anywhere, but it's not inconceivable to have concerns.

[Robanker]

I thought her GL:TAS look was good too.

Respect the thigh-high boots .

He was also pretty pitch-perfect in the Brave and the Bold cartoon, and I think his voice their was closer to his comic voice.

I like thigh high boots but I just don't think they've perfected the Star Sapphire look is all.

[Johnny]

But Johnny, before the failure of the 2011 film, he was featured prominently. He's been featured more than other Green Lanterns. And I don't understand the butt of jokes comment. Are you trying to say when Hal acted that way, TPTB didn't like the character? If that's the case, then why would they add him in the first place? I don't get it.

The kind of examples I can think of are his portrayal in The Lego Movie, or when John Stewart mentioned in the TTG movie how they don't talk about the Green Lantern movie, the fact that Hal had no lines of dialogue and was the first character to be killed in a 3 second flashback scene in Apokolips War, his overall portrayal in DC Super Hero Girls, there was also the infamous tweet by WB to Ryan Reynolds trying to offer him his ring back. There's a difference between making a bad superhero movie, and the company that owns the character who was featured in that movie making a concentrated effort to have a reoccurring pattern where that character is portrayed as in incompetent hero in other outside media projects.

I have no issues with Hal being excluded from the Justice League or not being the focus GL all the time, but some of the inside or outside media treatment he's been getting recently doesn't sit well with a lot of folks who don't want the character to be remembered by the general public that way. For instance think about how many decades it took DC to dig Aquaman out of the hole he was in, now it feels like they're shoving Hal back into that same hole. And unlike with Aquaman, it's not like DC needs to make any effort to redeem Hal's public image after the botched movie, since they can just use other Lanterns instead who they may consider to have a bigger commercial potential.

I think the mixture of those things among others is what creates frustrations among some Hal Jordan fans, and when you combine that with DC hiring writers who have publicly insulted the character to write the next GL book, that isn't going to sit well with a lot of people as well. In my observation frustrations like that are not a recent thing amongst Hal's fanbase, it has been building up for years and I've been upfront before about not coming in here that often anymore since it can get frustrating to me to levels I don't really need anymore.

[Frontier]

I like thigh high boots but I just don't think they've perfected the Star Sapphire look is all.

Arguably nobody ever has a perfect look, but that's probably up to personal taste .

[Robanker]

goddamit, it gotta stop making jokes that end up leading to amazing things i want but can never have

I'm doing a group buy and I have you for the oversized Mogo throw pillow.

[Sodam Yat]

The kind of examples I can think of are his portrayal in The Lego Movie, or when John Stewart mentioned in the TTG movie how they don't talk about the Green Lantern movie, the fact that Hal had no lines of dialogue and was the first character to be killed in a 3 second flashback scene in Apokolips War, his overall portrayal in DC Super Hero Girls, there was also the infamous tweet by WB to Ryan Reynolds trying to offer him his ring back. There's a difference between making a bad superhero movie, and the company that owns the character who was featured in that movie making a concentrated effort to have a reoccurring pattern where that character is portrayed as in incompetent hero in other outside media projects.

I have no issues with Hal being excluded from the Justice League or not being the focus GL all the time, but some of the inside or outside media treatment he's been getting recently doesn't sit well with a lot of folks who don't want the character to be remembered by the general public that way. For instance think about how many decades it took DC to dig Aquaman out of the hole he was in, now it feels like they're shoving Hal back into that same hole. And unlike with Aquaman, it's not like DC needs to make any effort to redeem Hal's public image after the botched movie, since they can just use other Lanterns instead who they may consider to have a bigger commercial potential.

I think the mixture of those things among others is what creates frustrations among some Hal Jordan fans, and when you combine that with DC hiring writers who have publicly insulted the character to write the next GL book, that isn't going to sit well with a lot of people as well. In my observation frustrations like that are not a recent thing amongst Hal's fanbase, it has been building up for years and I've been upfront before about not coming in here that often anymore since it can get frustrating to me to levels I don't really need anymore.

Ah, now I understand now. Yea, I remembered you being one of the main Hal fans on this forum criticizing DC/WB treatments with Hal Jordan. So I can see why you feel this way after what you just said. But to be fair, there's been guys that still liked Hal Jordan over at DC, like when Dan Didio pushed for another Hal Jordan solo with one of DC's top writers. But I understand what you're saying, though.

[Cosmic Emerald 23]

What I do want to see in the new John solo is more intricate constructs. Or at least like futuristic power tools instead of just guns.

[Frontier]

The kind of examples I can think of are his portrayal in The Lego Movie, or when John Stewart mentioned in the TTG movie how they don't talk about the Green Lantern movie, the fact that Hal had no lines of dialogue and was the first character to be killed in a 3 second flashback scene in Apokolips War, his overall portrayal in DC Super Hero Girls, there was also the infamous tweet by WB to Ryan Reynolds trying to offer him his ring back. There's a difference between making a bad superhero movie, and the company that owns the character who was featured in that movie making a concentrated effort to have a reoccurring pattern where that character is portrayed as in incompetent hero in other outside media projects.

I have no issues with Hal being excluded from the Justice League or not being the focus GL all the time, but some of the inside or outside media treatment he's been getting recently doesn't sit well with a lot of folks who don't want the character to be remembered by the general public that way. For instance think about how many decades it took DC to dig Aquaman out of the hole he was in, now it feels like they're shoving Hal back into that same hole. And unlike with Aquaman, it's not like DC needs to make any effort to redeem Hal's public image after the botched movie, since they can just use other Lanterns instead who they may consider to have a bigger commercial potential.

I think the mixture of those things among others is what creates frustrations among some Hal Jordan fans, and when you combine that with DC hiring writers who have publicly insulted the character to write the next GL book, that isn't going to sit well with a lot of people as well. In my observation frustrations like that are not a recent thing amongst Hal's fanbase, it has been building up for years and I've been upfront before about not coming in here that often anymore since it can get frustrating to me to levels I don't really need anymore.

In the interest of fairness it hasn't been that great for John either in other media.

He was mind-whammied by magic in Justice League Dark, also gets brainwashed in TTG!, eventually owned by Superman along with the rest of the Corps. in Superman: Red Son, gets no dialogue in the Harley Quinn cartoon (even though Phil LaMarr is a recurring VA on the show), and his "big moment" in Apokolips War was pretty much nothing.

The only GL who seems to get good media representation now is Jessica.

[Johnny]

In the interest of fairness it hasn't been that great for John either in other media.

He was mind-whammied by magic in Justice League Dark, also gets brainwashed in TTG!, eventually owned by Superman along with the rest of the Corps. in Superman: Red Son, gets no dialogue in the Harley Quinn cartoon (even though Phil LaMarr is a recurring VA on the show), and his "big moment" in Apokolips War was pretty much nothing.

The only GL who seems to get good media representation now is Jessica.

John or Jessica aren't constantly ridiculed for being unfortunate enough to be in a bad movie though. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Phil LaMarr was doing the same thing that Ryan Reynolds has been doing since 2011. But yes, the GL brand itself is not currently in the best state obviously, I just think some of WB's decisions in regards to Hal's presentation in outside media were completely unnecessary. Injustice is probably the only thing in recent memory that I've been fine with in regards to Hal. Even though he doesn't do much there in terms of story, he's not presented as an incompetent character who's a nuisance to his peers. His exchange with Superman in Injustice 2 about how his rage won't bring Carol back just like Clark's rage couldn't bring back Lois is perhaps the best moment the character's had in outside media in recent memory. And at this point that was years ago.

[Frontier]

John or Jessica aren't constantly ridiculed for being unfortunate enough to be in a bad movie though. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Phil LaMarr was doing the same thing that Ryan Reynolds has been doing since 2011. But yes, the GL brand itself is not currently in the best state obviously, I just think some of WB's decisions in regards to Hal's presentation in outside media were completely unnecessary. Injustice is probably the only thing in recent memory that I've been fine with in regards to Hal. Even though he doesn't do much there in terms of story, he's not presented as an incompetent character who's a nuisance to his peers. His exchange with Superman in Injustice 2 about how his rage won't bring Carol back just like Clark's rage couldn't bring back Lois is perhaps the best moment the character's had in outside media in recent memory. And at this point that was years ago.

I don't disagree.

This makes me wish we had gotten Josh Keaton's Hal and LaMarr's John together in the Sinestro Corps. arc in GL:TAS. It would've been so hypeworthy.

[Sodam Yat]

John or Jessica aren't constantly ridiculed for being unfortunate enough to be in a bad movie though. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and Phil LaMarr was doing the same thing that Ryan Reynolds has been doing since 2011. But yes, the GL brand itself is not currently in the best state obviously, I just think some of WB's decisions in regards to Hal's presentation in outside media were completely unnecessary. Injustice is probably the only thing in recent memory that I've been fine with in regards to Hal. Even though he doesn't do much there in terms of story, he's not presented as an incompetent character who's a nuisance to his peers. His exchange with Superman in Injustice 2 about how his rage won't bring Carol back just like Clark's rage couldn't bring back Lois is perhaps the best moment the character's had in outside media in recent memory. And at this point that was years ago.

Other than multimedia adaptions, DC did seem to put more effort into Hal Jordan at least.

[Frontier]

Other than multimedia adaptions, DC did seem to put more effort into Hal Jordan at least.

Hal and Barry, both.