Vance Astrovik (Justice/ Marvel Boy) Appreciation 2020

[shooshoomanjoe]

Well right now he is too busy working for the government organization C.R.A.D.L.E abusi.. er Uhm I mean captu.. I mean protecting young superheroes in latest of Champions outlawed.

I can see 616 Vance wearing a MAGA hat.

[superjosh]

I'm only kinda joking.

I can't see him being ok with Mr. Sinister and Apoccy being on the ruling council, given their past efforts at genocide

It's just like that in comics. Bad guys go good and good guys go bad and some things just have to be given a little license.

Justice is very much an old school superhero. I can't see him going along with a LOT of what Krakoa is doing and who they let stay here.

To me old school is just code for the Clint Eastwood type... and it's time for them to go out to pasture lol. Captain America can stay, of course!

I can see 616 Vance wearing a MAGA hat.

Too far! (But yeah, I'm starting to lose interest in him lol)

[Agent Z]

I can see 616 Vance wearing a MAGA hat.

What in Vance's history makes you think he'd ever do something like that?

[danielsan52]

What in Vance's history makes you think he'd ever do something like that?

Agreed! Vance would be on Cap's side, not USAgent or the current Squadron's!

[The Cool Thatguy]

It's just like that in comics. Bad guys go good and good guys go bad and some things just have to be given a little license.

I don't know of any heroes who've committed crimes on the scale that Apoccy and Sinister have. And they haven't repented so much as they've just toned down their crimes for the time being.

To me old school is just code for the Clint Eastwood type... and it's time for them to go out to pasture lol. Captain America can stay, of course!

Yeah, no. That's not old school superheroes.

Vance is a guy who does right because it is right. Who doesn't take the easy way out, but does the right thing no matter how hard.

[Thundershot]

I love Vance, but I don’t want him in the X-world.

[Outburstz]

I love Vance, but I don’t want him in the X-world.

doesn't want a mutant in the x world...........huh?

[gonnagiveittoya]

Eh, I don't think every mutant needs to be tied to the X-Men

[danielsan52]

Eh, I don't think every mutant needs to be tied to the X-Men

Strongly disagree. In addition to Vance, I want to see Tad Carter and the Promise, Lightbright and the BioGenes, Skein, Poltergeist and Link, the Alpha Flight mutants, the New Warrior mutants, El Aguila and others on Krakoa. That doesn’t mean I want them to me members of The X-Men.

[shooshoomanjoe]

What in Vance's history makes you think he'd ever do something like that?

I was being facetious towards what I quoted.

[superjosh]

Yeah, no. That's not old school superheroes.

Vance is a guy who does right because it is right. Who doesn't take the easy way out, but does the right thing no matter how hard.

That's all good and fine. I just don't like the implication that new school heroes don't do the same thing.

There's this assumption that the work of current heroes is political and one-sided, but to me it's just as hard if not harder to fight for what is right in the current climate.

[Thundershot]

doesn't want a mutant in the x world...........huh?

I wouldn’t mind seeing him get invited, check things out, and leave, telling them he appreciates the invite, but he’d rather continue being a super hero in America. I don’t think all mutants need to be involved. If I were a human looking mutant in the MU, I sure as hell wouldn’t make it public knowledge. At least not on purpose. I’d just tell people I got bit by a radioactive goldfish or something lol. Mutants are treated like shit, with a few exceptions.

[Outburstz]

I wouldn’t mind seeing him get invited, check things out, and leave, telling them he appreciates the invite, but he’d rather continue being a super hero in America. I don’t think all mutants need to be involved. If I were a human looking mutant in the MU, I sure as hell wouldn’t make it public knowledge. At least not on purpose. I’d just tell people I got bit by a radioactive goldfish or something lol. Mutants are treated like shit, with a few exceptions.

ooooffffff hiding your mutant id that will not make you have too many fans on Krakoa which I guess would be good storyline.

[Will Evans]

Vance has a rep. He did time in the slammer. More street cred than Wolverine.

[gonnagiveittoya]

It'd be interesting to see what Cyclops thinks of Vance given Outlawed and Cyclops being a founding member of the Champions.

Though with the X-Books the way they are it's a wonder if Scott even considers Kamala a friend post Krakoa